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Car Forum / BMW Cars / April 2004Used 2001 740ils vs 2002 745il ?
Any compelling reason to pick the one over the other? Both are certified at local BMW dealer, however the 2001 (perhaps due to sport pkg) is priced higher than I expected for a discontinued body style. The body style may be discontinued, but many people prefer the old 7 to the new 7. Besides, the new 7, especially that first year, has many more bugs than the old one. Reliability is worth a lot more than new styling. So, it could easily be that a 2001 740 would fetch more money than a 2002 745. Jim > Any compelling reason to pick the one over the other? Both are certified at > local BMW dealer, however the 2001 (perhaps due to sport pkg) is priced > higher than I expected for a discontinued body style. > Any compelling reason to pick the one over the other? Both are certified at > local BMW dealer, however the 2001 (perhaps due to sport pkg) is priced > higher than I expected for a discontinued body style. The biggest difference? I-drive. Get the 2001. You won't regret it. -Fred W > > Any compelling reason to pick the one over the other? Both are certified > at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -Fred W Fred, Do you know what are you talking about ? I do, I have 2000 E38 740i. Nothing wrong with "ugly" 745i, more power, performance, space. Yes, I-drive as well. A. Both are certified (translation: 3 years of maint costs built into the selling price). Doubt I'd keep either one for more than 3 years so repair cost not a factor. If I lease depreciation isn't either, though I'd assume they would build that into the money factor. Is the base 4.5 that much more spirited than a sport 4.4 w/steptronic and bigger gears? Anyone know where I can find 1/4 mile times on these 2? > > > Any compelling reason to pick the one over the other? Both are certified > > at [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > A. Joe, I would suggest that you test drive both and compare. However, if you are after "sportier" car, 745i standard is quicker and handles better with 740i sport. IIRC 285hp vs. 333hp, not a marginal difference. Alex > Both are certified (translation: 3 years of maint costs built into the > selling price). Doubt I'd keep either one for more than 3 years so repair [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > A. > Both are certified (translation: 3 years of maint costs built into the > selling price). Doubt I'd keep either one for more than 3 years so repair > cost not a factor. If I lease depreciation isn't either, though I'd assume > they would build that into the money factor. Is the base 4.5 that much more > spirited than a sport 4.4 w/steptronic and bigger gears? Anyone know where I > can find 1/4 mile times on these 2? Why would you worry about 1/4 mile times on a 7 series? Unbelievable... > > Both are certified (translation: 3 years of maint costs built into the > > selling price). Doubt I'd keep either one for more than 3 years so repair [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Unbelievable... The same reason that someone would buy a new Honda Civic then spend the same amount again to justify putting a garbage can exhaust on it. Take the 7 to Dinan and ask him for the "omakase" special. > Fred, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Nothing wrong with "ugly" 745i, more power, > performance, space. Yes, I-drive as well. Nope, you caught me Alex P, I don't know nothin' aboput anythin'. Ah is a dope... So are you saying you are dissatisfied with you E38? You lust for the odd shape and bling-bling e-tronics of the modern interpretation of a BMW, do you? Well, good for you Alex ole' boy. But you are must be a retard who can't appreciate the difference between a quality car with purpose, and one searching for it's purpose. There is no need to spend oodles of money for some POS electronics gizmo to turn on the heat unless you are looking to impres you society friends at the next cotillion. Gimme a break. -Fred W >> Do you know what are you talking about ? >> I do, I have 2000 E38 740i. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > some POS electronics gizmo to turn on the heat unless you are looking to > impres you society friends at the next cotillion. And while we're at it, what kind of nancy-pants needs the *car* to advance the spark for him, to say nothing of having some failure-prone electric gizmo in the place where the good Lord intended a starting crank to be? BMW and electric gimmickry have been synonymous since the days of the Service Indicator. Having spent a reasonable amount of time in both E38 and E65, I cannot help but conclude that the new car is an improvement on all fronts. It's faster, bigger inside, rides better, gets better mileage, offers more features, and doesn't cost any more. It's not a looker per se but it avoids the creepying anonymity of the previous two Sevens. Fred, Indeed, you have no clue. 2000 E38, 125.000km on the clock. Replaced: Complete sun roof cassette (around 1000usd), front shocks with EDC (2000usd) tyre pressure sensors on 4 wheels + reception box with aerial (1000usd) rear roller blind, lower control arms, bushes and wishbone something (1000usd) TV control unit, with audio amp (2000usd) gearbox had to be updated with new ZF software and refilled (2 l of oil short) passenger front seat needed attention as it developed rattling, radiator developed hairline crack, replaced (1000usd), oil leaks on both V banks, replaced gaskets. Other than that is has been a happy motoring, and I love the car. Month ago I purchased E60 530dA, with Idrive, active steering, adaptive headlights, bluetooth..... It takes a day to feel at home with I-drive. Service setting where you can check how many k's you have on your brakes, oil, cat. etc is fantastic. Having all that (and more) on E65 is an advantage. If it breaks....well...E38 also breaks (in case you have short attention span see above). And, we were talking performance in the first place - 745i is quicker and has better handling. So, what's your problem ? Alex > > Fred, > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > -Fred W Thanks for the feedback. I will be test driving both next week and try to determine the value of these offerings compared to what other mfgrs have on the market. Reason I asked about 1/4 mile times is we live in the age of "ratings" where new models continually need to out do old ones. Increased HP ratings do not always translate into acceleration imho. > Fred, > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > > > -Fred W That is all perfectly rational. Just forgive me my impression that you will never end up owning any of the cars you discussed here. MWR "Joe" : > Thanks for the feedback. I will be test driving both next week and try to > determine the value of these offerings compared to what other mfgrs have on > the market. Reason I asked about 1/4 mile times is we live in the age of > "ratings" where new models continually need to out do old ones. Increased HP > ratings do not always translate into acceleration imho. |
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