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Car Forum / BMW Cars / April 2004E39 530d known issues?
Hello, I am thinking about getting a (used) E39 530d touring from about 2000 or 2001. It will definitely be one with manual gear, no automatic. Mileage will be somewhere in the range 100.000 to 170.000 km, depending what I can get for the money. :-) Are there any known issues I should take care of? (Like problems related to a specific production year, common wearout problems or the like.) Is the clutch durable for such mileages, or is a weak clutch the possible reason why so many of these cars are out there with automatic transmission? Just collecting some information before looking deeper at concrete offers... Any hints and tips are welcome. Thanks,  SignatureDipl.-Ing. Tilmann Reh Autometer GmbH Siegen - Elektronik nach Maß. http://www.autometer.de http://www.unofficialbmw.com/bmw_e39.html Should be of some help. Enjoy! Jimmy G schrieb: > http://www.unofficialbmw.com/bmw_e39.html > > Should be of some help. Enjoy! Thanks, look nice - however it does not contain any information about the diesels... :-( SignatureDipl.-Ing. Tilmann Reh Autometer GmbH Siegen - Elektronik nach Maß. http://www.autometer.de > Jimmy G schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks, look nice - however it does not contain any information > about the diesels... :-( The diesel engine is very well built and will virtually run forever, if properly looked after (+400,000km). The clutch assembly and transmission will likely fail first. The 530d is quite heavy (around 1735 kg), so an automatic gearbox is more popular, I guess. I'd get the manual, though. I wouldn't expect much trouble in the clutch department before the 200,000-220,000 km mark.I have 325TDS from 1997 with 280,000 km on the clock, and the clutch works absolutely fine, I'm not even sure if they have ever replaced the clutch disk. If you get a well-maintained car of about 150,000 km, you'll notice it feels almost as new. Some of the E39 owners should fill you in on the details regarding electric system glitches, problems with the heater fan (seems that happens often), and other non-mechanical stuff. But you should be able to gather enough info on the e39 forums, even though they don't concern the diesel variants. Good luck, Peter Peter Bozz schrieb: > The diesel engine is very well built and will virtually run forever, > if properly looked after (+400,000km). Thanks, I hope so :-). > The clutch assembly and transmission will likely fail first. The 530d is > quite heavy (around 1735 kg), so an > automatic gearbox is more popular, I guess. I'd get the manual, though. My current E34 (530i V8) as well as my previous 525i 24V also have some weight... However I really prefer manual gears. > I wouldn't expect much trouble in the clutch department before the > 200,000-220,000 km mark.I have 325TDS from 1997 with 280,000 km on > the clock, and the clutch works absolutely fine, I'm not even sure > if they have ever replaced the clutch disk. If you get a well-maintained > car of about 150,000 km, you'll notice it feels almost as new. My above mentioned cars needed new clutch disks at about 170 resp. 250 Mm, so I was asking... The rest of the cars is quite reliable, I think (I sold the 525 at 296 Mm, and the 530 now has 287 Mm). There are some smaller issues from time to time, of course. > Some of the E39 owners should fill you in on the details regarding > electric system glitches, problems with the heater fan (seems that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Good luck, Thanks! SignatureDipl.-Ing. Tilmann Reh Autometer GmbH Siegen - Elektronik nach Maß. http://www.autometer.de > My current E34 (530i V8) as well as my previous 525i 24V also have > some weight... However I really prefer manual gears. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > at 296 Mm, and the 530 now has 287 Mm). There are some smaller issues > from time to time, of course. "Mm", is that miles? Or do you mean kilometers? In either case, your previous experiences say enough about the reliability of BMWs. Rock solid. With a 150,000km car, I'd venture to say, you have absolutely nothing significant to worry about. The car won't even be halfway through its lifetime. Enjoy your new ride! Peter Peter Bozz schrieb: >> My above mentioned cars needed new clutch disks at about 170 resp. >> 250 Mm, so I was asking... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > previous experiences say enough about the reliability of BMWs. Rock > solid. 1 Mm = 1 Megameter = 1000 km. (technical scaling). I was tired of writing all those 000's :-). > With a 150,000km car, I'd venture to say, you have absolutely nothing > significant to worry about. The car won't even be halfway through its > lifetime. > > Enjoy your new ride! Thanks, SignatureDipl.-Ing. Tilmann Reh Autometer GmbH Siegen - Elektronik nach Maß. http://www.autometer.de > Peter Bozz schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > 1 Mm = 1 Megameter = 1000 km. (technical scaling). > I was tired of writing all those 000's :-). And how many light years would that be ? :) > > With a 150,000km car, I'd venture to say, you have absolutely nothing > > significant to worry about. The car won't even be halfway through its [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks, > > Peter Bozz schrieb: > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > And how many light years would that be ? :) ... I believe 250 Mm is roughly 0.000000026426 light-years or 0.000000008106 parsec. ;#) Michael > > > With a 150,000km car, I'd venture to say, you have absolutely nothing > > > significant to worry about. The car won't even be halfway through its [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > Thanks, FYI: common Anglo-Saxon abb for thousands is K or k, e.g. 6K miles = 6 000 miles... :-) DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...................] > 1 Mm = 1 Megameter = 1000 km. (technical scaling). > I was tired of writing all those 000's :-). [......] Dori A Schmetterling schrieb: > FYI: common Anglo-Saxon abb for thousands is K or k, e.g. > > 6K miles = 6 000 miles... Yes, but "kkm" is not valid since "km" already contains a multiplier. ;-) However, in germany it is common practice to write "Tkm" in ads, for "Tausend km", which is against all standards... SignatureDipl.-Ing. Tilmann Reh Autometer GmbH Siegen - Elektronik nach Maß. http://www.autometer.de Quite so but, continuing the non-rational scheme, 6K km = 6 000 km (not 6Kkm). The space is essential. At least the K comes from 'kilo', whereas the German T is merely from the German for thousand... Of course, 6 Mm are, indeed, 6 kilokilometres... :-) Similarly, a job ad in the UK (maybe in USA also?) might mention a salary of "GBP 40K". And now we move on to a discussion about the number of angels dancing on a pinhead... DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > Dori A Schmetterling schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > However, in germany it is common practice to write "Tkm" > in ads, for "Tausend km", which is against all standards... Since I have the same/similar M57engine, here's my experiences of my unscheduled repairs: I've had a 2000 330D (with 71,000 miles) since last November and there have been a couple of engine issues you may be interested in. The inlet manifold cracked and was leaking. It is made from plastic and had split at the seam. Don't know how this happened. Major loss in power but replaced without too much fuss. Would have been about ?700 from main dealer but mine was done for about ?450 at specialist. Currently I have a hesitancy in the engine. If I put my foot to the floor the car sometimes stutters, like misfiring but not as bad and passes. It doesn't happen all the time. I have a feeling that I'm losing power also but thats not as obvious. The main dealer put it on the computer and found no faults and they don't seem to know what the problem is so it going back in very soon for them to look at. Perhaps I'm just unlucky here but if you ever get intermittent power delivery problems you may lose sleep like I am. Any comments from the experts would be much appreciated. Thanks MC |
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