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Car Forum / BMW Cars / April 2004

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Which BMW should I get?

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Fraser Montandon - 16 Apr 2004 19:36 GMT
Hi there,
I have the choice of these second hand BMW 3 series e36 models, they are all
in good condition.

316i
318i
320i
I am wanting the engine that performs the best but is also economic and cost
effective to maintain.

Your advice would be most appreciated.
Thanks!
GT - 16 Apr 2004 20:52 GMT
> Hi there,
> I have the choice of these second hand BMW 3 series e36 models, they are all
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Your advice would be most appreciated.
> Thanks!

Fuel consumption of 4 cylinder engines is lower than 6 cylinders.
However, once you start using 6 cylinder engines, you will never want to go
back to 4 cylinders, because the sound and the smoothness are much much
better.
I had a 1992 320i which I sold to my father a few years ago. It has now
258,000 km (not miles) and needed only few repairs: 1 water pump, 1 clutch,
2 shock absorbers, other small parts. The engine is still strong and uses no
oil.
Hope this helps.

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Switzerland
1997 Audi A4 2.8 Q 219,000 km (134,000 miles)
1997 BMW 535i 216,000 km (132,000 miles)

delete_spam - 16 Apr 2004 23:05 GMT
Go for the 320i, smooth as silk.

> Hi there,
> I have the choice of these second hand BMW 3 series e36 models, they are all
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Your advice would be most appreciated.
> Thanks!
Edinbro - 17 Apr 2004 01:59 GMT
> Go for the 320i, smooth as silk.

Definitely, beautiful car. Sounds great when revved :)
Faive - 17 Apr 2004 17:18 GMT
> > Go for the 320i, smooth as silk.
>
> Definitely, beautiful car. Sounds great when revved :)

Besides, is the most economical way (fuel consumption wise) to have a
six cilynder BMW. Altough I have to admit that once I was in your
position and I compared the increase in fuel consumption between the
318i and the 320i versus the performance gain in both cars and the
equation didn´t bring any good result to the 320i. The performance was
practically unnoticiable but the fuel consumption factor (altough not
a big difference) was higher.
If I was you and a 325i was out of the question I would decide to
choose the 320i anytime. I just don´t know how the resale value of a
320i is. I mean people go for a 318i (if you want fun and economy) and
a 325i (if you still want fun but more performance albeit higher
prices) but the 320i is stuck between those two other choices. Do a
little research about the 320i...as I told you, I would choose the
320i, yeah, just to have that 6 cilynder magic :)
Frank Kemper - 18 Apr 2004 11:20 GMT
faive@hotmail.com (Faive) haute in die Tasten:

> If I was you and a 325i was out of the question I would decide to
> choose the 320i anytime.

If you buy an used BMW and take into consideration the total cost of
ownership I doubt that there is a significant price difference between both
engines. Maintenance should be roughly the same, so is fuel consumption (it
is basically the same car which has to be moved). Tax and insurance may
vary a bit, but not dramatically. As both straight sixes lack torque a
little bit, I would definitely consider the bigger engine which has more
oomph. OTOH the 320 engine is considered to be slightly smoother than the
325i

Frank

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adder - 19 Apr 2004 11:03 GMT
> If you buy an used BMW and take into consideration the total cost of
> ownership I doubt that there is a significant price difference between both
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Frank

The difference in performance between the 325 & the 320 is like chalk
and cheese.  Sure, many people are pleased with a 320 - it can do the
job reasonably well but a 325 will put a smile on your face & won't
cost much more to run (depending how many miles you do).  A 325 you'll
easily be keeping up with GTis etc.  In a 320 you'll be get the
run-around by just about everybody else on the road.  If you don't
care about that then fine - just buy the one that has the best
condition/colour/options etc at the best price.
Andrew Thomas - 22 Apr 2004 11:28 GMT
> The difference in performance between the 325 & the 320 is like chalk
> and cheese.  Sure, many people are pleased with a 320 - it can do the
> job reasonably well but a 325 will put a smile on your face & won't
> cost much more to run (depending how many miles you do).  A 325 you'll
> easily be keeping up with GTis etc.  In a 320 you'll be get the
> run-around by just about everybody else on the road.

This might be the case in the US, where even a cheap, low-quality
family car has a 200 bhp V6, front-drive engine and gets to 60 in 7
sec.  But the E36 320i (133 mph, 0-60 in 8.5-9 sec) is still a lot
faster than most traffic on European roads, where small-capacity
hatches and diesels rule.  Its high-speed performance (> 80 mph) is
considerably better than at low speed, which is of questionable merit.

The thing is, of course, you have to rev it - hard.  Very hard.
Something most UK drivers, at least, have an aversion to :).

The OP is better off considering a 325i, I agree.
adder - 22 Apr 2004 14:43 GMT
> This might be the case in the US, where even a cheap, low-quality
> family car has a 200 bhp V6, front-drive engine and gets to 60 in 7
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>
> The OP is better off considering a 325i, I agree.

Isn't it more like 10secs for the 320?  Still slower than a 1.5 Mk1
Golf. Slower than a 1.6 astra. Sure you can make progress but like you
say - foot hard down and change gear at redline.  It's fine if you
just want to get places.

I live in the UK but contrary to popular belief not every merican
rides around in a 5.4 litre camaro.  Most of my friends there drive
regular japanese or european motors of around 1.8-2 litres.  One even
has a Mini.
Jeff Strickland - 16 Apr 2004 23:13 GMT
The 316 and 318 are 4 bangers.

> Hi there,
> I have the choice of these second hand BMW 3 series e36 models, they are all
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Your advice would be most appreciated.
> Thanks!
Mark C. - 17 Apr 2004 12:58 GMT
320!

MC UK.

> The 316 and 318 are 4 bangers.
>
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> > Your advice would be most appreciated.
> > Thanks!
Jim - 18 Apr 2004 01:15 GMT
> Hi there,
> I have the choice of these second hand BMW 3 series e36 models, they are all
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I am wanting the engine that performs the best but is also economic and cost
> effective to maintain.
Doesn't everybody...  The 320i would be my choice.
Jim
Ben Vennegoor - 21 Apr 2004 22:43 GMT
>> Hi there,
>> I have the choice of these second hand BMW 3 series e36 models, they
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Doesn't everybody...  The 320i would be my choice.
> Jim

I would choose the 320i... because the 6 cilinder engine has more torque
and also more relaxed to drive... It's not that more expensive than a 4
cilinder... for fuel economy... the 6 cilinder would use more in city
traffic but runs cheaper on the highway...

If you are searching for performance then you might be better of with a
318iS (also known as the BabyM3)

the 318iS runs about as fast as the 320i but feels more sporty... more
nervous on the gas... the 320i is more relaxed... performance of both
cars are not that different, neither is fuel consumption... but I would
recomend testdriving all of your possible choises.

last remark: Skip the 316i... sooner or later you will be dissapointed
with the lack of power... too small engine for that car.
 
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