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Car Forum / BMW Cars / April 2004questions on used BMW 323i with 61K miles
hi folks, I am thinking of buying a '00 323i with 61K miles on it. The owner says she has done inspection 2 on the car and its in excellent condition. However, I was wondering at what mile point shud the timing belt be changed? Is there something that I shud specifically look for (mechanical or otherwise) on such a car? I like the car and the only drawback is htat the CD changer is in the trunk :-( They are asking $20,500 for the car which has 100K miles/6 yr warranty. This is going to be my first BMW and I hope that I dont' end up spending a whole lot of money after only a few miles more. Any help wud be highly appeciated. thanks! RA I have a '99 323i with 130,000Km (82K miles) on it and it still feels new. Timing belt will need to have been changed by 61K miles. Other than this just brakes and oil, nothing else has been needed by mine. You will not regret this as your first BMW - it is a brilliant vehicle. Mike > hi folks, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > thanks! > RA >I have a '99 323i with 130,000Km (82K miles) on it and it still feels new. >Timing belt will need to have been changed by 61K miles. That's interesting. This car does not have a timing belt. -- marcio at compudimensions.com > I have a '99 323i with 130,000Km (82K miles) on it and it still feels > new. Timing belt will need to have been changed by 61K miles. If you've had your timing belt changed and been charged for it, sue the garage.  Signature*There's no place like www.home.com * Dave Plowman dave.sound@argonet.co.uk London SW 12 RIP Acorn > hi folks, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > thanks! > RA There's no timing belt on the e46 323, it uses a chain that does not need replacing. I can't think of anything unusual to look out for on these. My 99 323i was very reliable. I needed a bigger car (I have three kids) so I traded it in for a 740iL. If I didn't need the extra room, I would definitely still have it today. If Inspection II was recently done, it should be in good shape. Still, be sure to have a third party garage that you trust take a look at it. You didn't say where you live or what options the car comes with, but an "average" car on Kelly Blue Book goes for about what they're asking. Kyle. Thanks for your responses guys! Kyle, what is e46? I live in Sunnyvale, CA. I checked the inspection 2 report which said that they did change two engine belts but the service cost doesn't seem to be high (and this was done by the dealer who originally sold the car). The car has sport and premium packages with some more options. I checked the price on KBB and Nada guides which seems to be inline with what the owner is asking. I think I'll get this car checked my mechanic as he also does smog check which the car will need before registration. -RA > There's no timing belt on the e46 323, it uses a chain that does not need > replacing. I can't think of anything unusual to look out for on these. My [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Kyle. e46 is the chassis code for the 99-current 3-Series sedans. The older (92-98) sedans were e36. Coupes and convertibles in this style started a year later. With both sport and premium packages, it sounds like a good deal. Kyle. > Thanks for your responses guys! > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Kyle. I found this info on the web: Series Generations Internally, BMW associates an "e-code" for each generation of a series ("E" stands for "entwicklung", German for "development"). These "chassis codes" only change to signify signify a major redesign of a series, or the introduction of a new series. e12 - 1972 - 1981 5 Series e21 - 1975 - 1983 3 Series e23 - 1977 - 1987 7 Series e24 - 1977 - 1989 6 Series e26 - 1978 - 1981 M1 e28 - 1982 - 1988 5 Series e30 - 1984 - 1991 3 Series e31 - 1990 - 1998 8 Series e32 - 1987 - 1994 7 series e34 - 1988 - 1995 5 Series e36 - 1992 - 1998 3 Series e38 - 1995 - 2002 7 Series e39 - 1997 - 2004 5 Series e46 - 1999 - 2003 3 Series e52 - 2000 - 2004 Z8 e53 - 2000 - present X5 e60 - 2005 - present 5 Series e63 - 2005 - present 6 Series e66 - 2003 - present 7 series Looks like all 3-series sedans after '99 have e46 type chassis. So, no timing belt!! > e46 is the chassis code for the 99-current 3-Series sedans. The older > (92-98) sedans were e36. Coupes and convertibles in this style started a > year later. With both sport and premium packages, it sounds like a good > deal. > > Kyle. > I found this info on the web: Damn kids! Look again. You left out two of the best. > Series Generations > Internally, BMW associates an "e-code" for each generation of a series > ("E" stands for "entwicklung", German for "development"). These > "chassis codes" only change to signify signify a major redesign of a > series, or the introduction of a new series. E3 - 1968 - 1976 2500/2800/3.0/3.3/Bavaria E9 - 1968 - 1975 Coupes > e12 - 1972 - 1981 5 Series > e21 - 1975 - 1983 3 Series > e23 - 1977 - 1987 7 Series > e24 - 1977 - 1989 6 Series > e26 - 1978 - 1981 M1 > e28 - 1982 - 1988 5 Series -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; drove that) > Thanks for your responses guys! > > Kyle, what is e46? I live in Sunnyvale, CA. I checked the inspection 2 > report which said that they did change two engine belts but the > service cost doesn't seem to be high (and this was done by the dealer > who originally sold the car). Those would be the serpentine drive belts (fan belts to some) and yest thos would be replaced at the approximately 60k mile Inspection II. -Fred W Interesting. Service report says the timing belt was changed. Guess i'd better have a talk with my dealer. Mike > > hi folks, > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Kyle. The timing belt is really a chain, and should last the life of the car. > hi folks, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > thanks! > RA |
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