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Car Forum / BMW Cars / April 2004

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Sump (oil pan) for E30 318is

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MA020348 - 24 Apr 2004 23:00 GMT
Hello Group,

  A sudden loss of all oil in the engine, and an inability to retain oil after
a re-fill, has revealed a crack in the aluminium sump (oil pan) at the bottom
of the engine (in doubt caused by hitting a rock on a rough track).

  I should like to know how easy/difficult it will be to repair this. It looks
like it should be possible to unbolt the sump from the engine block without
shifting/lifting the engine. Is it?

  What are the chances of getting the sump repaired by welding? Ally welding
is apparently a delicate matter...

   Or am I likely to be able to get a new or secondhand sump to replace it? I
know there are not so many examples of the 318is with the M42 engine out there
or in the scrapyards.Could it be that the part is the same as the much more
common M40 engine in the E30?
   
   Thanks in advance any information and advice.
   Michael Anders

 

   
Bill - 27 Apr 2004 03:18 GMT
I did this repair on my car after I bottomed out on the road. I have a 91
318is (e30M42).

This car has upper and lower oil pans, if you have just broken the lower it
will be a simpler job.
I broke both upper and lower.
I had to lift the engine and drop the front suspension slightly to do the
upper pan.
I found used parts on the internet.

Let me know if you have questions.

Bill

> Hello Group,
>
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>     Thanks in advance any information and advice.
>     Michael Anders
MA020348 - 27 Apr 2004 09:20 GMT
Hi Bill,
  Thanks your kind reply.
   It's only the lower pan that's broken. I got it off yesterday without any
problem and took it to an expert on aluminium welding. He wasn't sure he could
fix it, so I'm still looking for a replacement part.
  My question: is this oil pan the same as on an M40 engine, 'cos if it is I
should be able to find one easily.
  Regards,
    Michael Anders
 
Dave Plowman - 28 Apr 2004 01:27 GMT
>    What are the chances of getting the sump repaired by welding? Ally
> welding is apparently a delicate matter...

It's not that 'delicate' on a non stressed part like a sump. But might
just cost as much as a new one.

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Michael ANDERS - 28 Apr 2004 18:47 GMT
 In fact I just got it nicely welded by an acknowledged expert for the
princely sum of 26 euros, popped it back on and filled 'er up with some
quality oil. I'm now hoping that no permanent harm was done to the internals
by the loss of oil.
  I can't really tell yet if the engine's noisier. For years now it's been
sounding like a bucket of old nails when it starts from cold, and never was
exactly quiet when well warmed up, though until now I've virtually never had
to top up between oil changes (178,000 kms on the clock).
  Thanks to all those who took an active interest in my problem. I'll be
driving 'er more carefully over rough roads in future.
  Michael Anders

Dave Plowman <dave.sound@argonet.co.uk> a ?crit dans le message :
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> >    What are the chances of getting the sump repaired by welding? Ally
> > welding is apparently a delicate matter...
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>     Dave Plowman     dave.sound@argonet.co.uk     London SW 12
>      RIP Acorn
adder - 29 Apr 2004 10:22 GMT
> In fact I just got it nicely welded by an acknowledged expert for the
> princely sum of 26 euros, popped it back on and filled 'er up with some
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> driving 'er more carefully over rough roads in future.
>    Michael Anders

If it were me & I had to replace the sump then I'd also take the
opportunity to replace the main & con-rod bearings while I was at it.
 
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