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Car Forum / BMW Cars / May 2004

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Broken Ball Joint

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Tse - 23 May 2004 07:17 GMT
Hi,

I am living in Hong Kong and driving a X5. Yesterday I went to the garage
changing the front left tyre because of a flat tyre the night before. The
garage guy told me he found oil stain on the inner side of the rim. There
may be a cause by the broken ball joint or dust cover. Please tell me
whether this is possible due to the flat tyre and I was still running for
some distance. In Hong Kong garage guys are tricky, they always want you to
change something. Anyone here has the same experience and what would be the
oil on the rim.

One more thing, when I change the spare tyre, the jack collapsed and the
brake disc dropped on the inner side of the rim after I loosened the screw.
Would that be affected or...............?

Please help, any expert here! I don't want to be cheated by those tricky
garage guys.

Spencer
fbloogyudsr - 23 May 2004 16:58 GMT
> I am living in Hong Kong and driving a X5. Yesterday I went to the garage
> changing the front left tyre because of a flat tyre the night before. The
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> change something. Anyone here has the same experience and what would be the
> oil on the rim.

It is *very* unlikely that the oil would be from a ball joint - they have
some
grease inside, but no oil.

> One more thing, when I change the spare tyre, the jack collapsed and the
> brake disc dropped on the inner side of the rim after I loosened the screw.
> Would that be affected or...............?

It's far more likely that the oil was already there, or that it's brake
fluid.
Sounds like it didn't drop very far - it's very unlikely that physical
damage
to the axle would take place in any drop less than 2-4 inches, especially
since it sounds like the tire/wheel cushioned the fall.

Get a second opinion.'

Floyd
Tse - 23 May 2004 18:55 GMT
Floyd,

Thanks for your comment. That should be grease like stuff instead of oil as
my mother language is not English. Then would that be the ball joint or dust
cover really broken if an entirely flat tyre keeps running for some
distance? How would that be affedted to the performance if the ball joint
broken. It cannot even go or it will break some day. Please comment.

You are right, I don't think the brake disc or the axle damaged with several
inches dropped with the tyre/wheel cushioned. I don't find any problem when
I drove the car for a while today.

"fbloogyudsr" <fbloogyudsr@nwlink.com> ???g???l???s?D
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> > I am living in Hong Kong and driving a X5. Yesterday I went to the garage
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>
> Floyd
fbloogyudsr - 23 May 2004 19:55 GMT
> Thanks for your comment. That should be grease like stuff instead of oil as
> my mother language is not English. Then would that be the ball joint or dust
> cover really broken if an entirely flat tyre keeps running for some
> distance? How would that be affedted to the performance if the ball joint
> broken. It cannot even go or it will break some day. Please comment.

The dust cover for a ball joint is not likely to get broken by a flat tire.
Nor is the dust cover for the CV-joint, which would be more serious
as the CV-joint is much more expensive to replace.

The other place where there is grease is the axle bearing.  It's possible
that a flat tire, driven on for a while, might cause heating and/or
stress to the wheel bearing that could cause some grease to get out.
I doubt it, however.

I remember seeing a 60 Minutes show where they caught mechanics
with small tubes of oil/grease putting it on suspension components
while checking tire pressure and convincing patrons that they needed
new shocks/etc.

Floyd
adder - 26 May 2004 13:27 GMT
> The dust cover for a ball joint is not likely to get broken by a flat tire.
> Nor is the dust cover for the CV-joint, which would be more serious
> as the CV-joint is much more expensive to replace.

I'd go along with a torn CV joint boot if there is one but it should
be quite obvious by inpection of that area what's causing it.  If the
boot is torn it may be that the joint itself is fine (for now).
Tse - 26 May 2004 15:20 GMT
After I heard you guys comment. It scared me and better to have inspection
on the front wheel. Thanks anyway!

"adder" <adder1969@yahoo.co.uk> ???g???l???s?D
:66674363.0405260427.67ea407c@posting.google.com...
> > The dust cover for a ball joint is not likely to get broken by a flat tire.
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> be quite obvious by inpection of that area what's causing it.  If the
> boot is torn it may be that the joint itself is fine (for now).
 
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