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Car Forum / BMW Cars / July 2004M5 vs ?
Corvette Boxter Boxter S Carrera CarreraS "tech27" <tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote > Corvette > Boxter > Boxter S > Carrera > CarreraS The M5 has a bigger boot (trunk) and more doors. HTH  SignatureFirestorm > > Corvette > > Boxster [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > HTH Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (-; If you factor in the extra doors (or lack thereof), how do the various boots handle and accelerate? Will the Boxster performe better or worse since it has two boots? Also, how do the factory installed sound systems affect lateral g's? > > > Corvette > > > Boxster [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Will the Boxster performe better or worse since it has two boots? > Also, how do the factory installed sound systems affect lateral g's? If the factory system has metal drivers (speakers) it should be a bit faster through a turn as the response time of these are faster than your ordinary paper drivers. Large woofers will tend to slow the car down if they are not phased with the engine. All that mass moving in an opposite direction of travel is a lot to overcome. ;-) Kyle. It's the kind of answer your question deserves... DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > > > Corvette > > > Boxster [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Will the Boxster performe better or worse since it has two boots? > Also, how do the factory installed sound systems affect lateral g's? Having a bad day Dori? (-; > It's the kind of answer your question deserves... > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Will the Boxster performe better or worse since it has two boots? > > Also, how do the factory installed sound systems affect lateral g's? Looks like it...when I reviewed to what I had replied, I thought it not quite appropriate, but let it go. Sorry folks. For some reason I thought you were moaning about the humorous replies to your original question, but it looks like you were joining in. DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > Having a bad day Dori? (-; [.........] Thanks. I never moan about humor, although some attempts are "moaners". Although I'm generally a sarcastic prick, I can usually tell if someone is trying be (or is) funny. Except for that time you posted a question about converting your M3 to rear engine and putting a Ford Mustang 5 liter V8 in it. Something about better weight distribution for wheelies as I recall. (-; > Looks like it...when I reviewed to what I had replied, I thought it not > quite appropriate, but let it go. Sorry folks. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Having a bad day Dori? (-; > [.........] >> > Corvette >> > Boxster [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (-; You're welcome! > Also, how do the factory installed sound systems affect lateral g's? The fewer speakers, the better. Magnets are heavy. SignatureFirestorm Aren't those all coup?s. How about comparing apples w/ apples ?? Cadillac CTS-V (Red Delicious) - 4drs / 5 pass - 5.7 L 400 HP 390 LB/FT (NA) - 6 spd/M - 3,800 lbs - < $50 k - Similar all-round performance - Choppier ride - Taxi cab interior Mercedes E55 AMG (McIntosh) - 4drs / 5 pass - 5.4 L 469 HP 516 LB/FT (SC) - 5 spd/A - 4,200 lbs - > $74 k Regards, Ken R. On 10 Jun 2004, you wrote in alt.autos.bmw: > Corvette > Boxter > Boxter S > Carrera > CarreraS > Corvette > Boxter > Boxter S > Carrera > CarreraS My question was posted out of curiosity, not as a prelude to a purchase decision. I have a 2003 M5, and I wasn't interested in any other car in that price range. The M5 was what I wanted. Now I'm just wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to drive the M5 as well as the others on my list. Sorry, I should have been more specific in my original post. Thanks > Aren't those all coup?s. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Carrera > > CarreraS Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven the S though. Also, the POrsche, while fast and well handling, is scarry at speeds greater than 140 because it feels like it might loose control any second...though it was a rental car so maybe it was messed up. Richard > My question was posted out of curiosity, not as a prelude to a purchase > decision. [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > Carrera > > > CarreraS > Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven the S > though. Also, the POrsche, while fast and well handling, is scarry at speeds > greater than 140 because it feels like it might loose control any > second...though it was a rental car so maybe it was messed up. I assume you're talking about the 911 there. It's rock solid at speed, so it must be the rental factor. Also, the Boxster, though underpowered, is a great setup. The car is really well balanced. Cheers...Craig craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M http://www.vabene.net --- I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information. - Calvin (and Hobbes) All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power. - Ashleigh Brilliant I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. - Fred Allen > Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven the S > though. I was considering looking for a used Boxster for a while, to have as my fun car, but when I saw a) what they are getting for them and b) what a nightmare the mid-engine design would be for the home d-i-y mechanic, I opted for nice 2.8L Z3 instead. Handles great, great engine and the engine's hanging out there to work on easy as pie. -Fred W "Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote >> Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven >> the S though. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > opted for nice 2.8L Z3 instead. Handles great, great engine and the > engine's hanging out there to work on easy as pie. Hmm. Pig-ugly, though. SignatureFirestorm > >> Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven > >> the S though. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Hmm. Pig-ugly, though. FWIW, I received many more favorable comments on the styling of my Z3 than it's replacement, a Z4. IMHO, the Z3 is still a great looking car - unless, of course, you don't care for the look of classic British roadsters. Tom > > >> Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven > > >> the S though. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > it's replacement, a Z4. IMHO, the Z3 is still a great looking car - unless, > of course, you don't care for the look of classic British roadsters. I took a test drive in a Z3 and found it to be rather mediocre in terms of handling. I thought it had little road feel compared to either my M3 or my vintage 911. Cheers...Craig craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M http://www.vabene.net --- I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information. - Calvin (and Hobbes) All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power. - Ashleigh Brilliant I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. - Fred Allen Mazda MX-5 (Miata) any day... DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [......] > FWIW, I received many more favorable comments on the styling of my Z3 than > it's replacement, a Z4. IMHO, the Z3 is still a great looking car - unless, > of course, you don't care for the look of classic British roadsters. > > Tom "Tom Korth" <tkorth1nospam@comcast.net> wrote > "Gunga Dan" <dedge12858@nothotmail.com> wrote >> >> Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never >> >> driven the S though. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > - unless, of course, you don't care for the look of classic British > roadsters. It's not the layout (front engine) I don't like, it's the detailing, and well, basically the shape of the whole section ahead of the front wheels. To me it looks like they've grafted on a sports car body to a nose from a saloon. IMO something like an E-Type or an Austin Healy 3000 is in a different league. But it's all subjective, so obviously there's no 'correct' view. SignatureFirestorm > >> Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven > >> the S though. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Hmm. Pig-ugly, though. Well, as they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", and all that... I happen to like the styling on the Z3. It is somewhat of a classic roadster, yet different enough to be distinguishable from other classic roadsters. Many people do not like the looks of the boxster or Audi TT either. To each his own... -Fred W "Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote > "Gunga Dan" <dedge12858@nothotmail.com> wrote >> >> Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never >> >> driven the S though. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Many people do not like the looks of the boxster or Audi TT either. To > each his own... Yeah, I apologise, it was rather a cheap shot. I like the front engine, long bonnet (hood) look but not in the way it's been applied in the case of the Z3. As you say though, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. SignatureFirestorm A Z3 is as much to a Boxster as the ugly duckling is to the best looking of its siblings. > > >> Don't waste your time typing about the Boxster POS. I've never driven > > >> the S though. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -Fred W > A Z3 is as much to a Boxster as the ugly duckling is to the best looking of > its siblings. I suppose yours is the only opinion that counts then, eh Mr. Roberts? I actually prefer the more classic looks (IMO) of the Z3s. -Fred W > > A Z3 is as much to a Boxster as the ugly duckling is to the best looking > of > > its siblings. > > I suppose yours is the only opinion that counts then, eh Mr. Roberts? > I actually prefer the more classic looks (IMO) of the Z3s. I don't like the looks of the Z3, but I also don't think Mr. Roberts comparison speaks particularly poorly of the look either. I mean, just how much more ugly can one duck than another? Ahh, but that's what curiosity becomes for many - a prelude to a purchase decision. I am sure it is just a slip, but you do write >> The M5 *was* what I wanted. Whatever. To satiate the curiosity, take a tip from Richard (marlinspike) and rent when the opportunity presents itself. While some lesser firms present vehicles that are poorly maintained, repaired or even rebuilt from wreaks, often their premises and/or people offer insight into the background of the cars. Assuming that you don't know about the outfit by word-of-mouth beforehand. BTW - nobody asks but in an apples-to-apples comparo, the M5 is a Granny Smith. Tart, crisp, excellent for all purposes. Regards, Ken R. > My question was posted out of curiosity, not as a prelude > to a purchase decision. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks > Ahh, but that's what curiosity becomes for many - a prelude > to a purchase decision. I am sure it is just a slip, but > you do write > > >> The M5 *was* what I wanted. I'm not a Freudian, so I only have limited slips. Speaking in the past tense regarding what I *was* looking for, "was" is (was) the correct word. A ferrari as I'm concerned, there isn't another car that I'm even convertibling. Enzo of story! Exactly, Thanks for clarifying this. Those vehicles in the original post aren't in the same league. >Aren't those all coupés. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> Carrera >> CarreraS One fact that 'Top Trumps' cards don't mention is that you can, if you wish, transport your family around in an M5 at supercar speeds in abject luxury.. > Corvette > Boxter > Boxter S > Carrera > CarreraS There's an excellent Clarkson video (I know, contradiction in terms) where he drives the outgoing Jag XJR and Tiff Needell drives the M5 around some country roads.... I have the DiVX version but is nearly 700MB. >Corvette >Boxter >Boxter S >Carrera >CarreraS Uhhhhhhhh, only the M5 is a sedan buddy. > >Corvette > >Boxter [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Uhhhhhhhh, only the M5 is a sedan buddy. You've obviously had a lot of experience with all these cars. I'll bet you even know which ones have a cigarette lighter. You should put all your vast knowledge on a website. Post the url here so we an all put in on our "avoid" list. The M5 holds the production car record for a lap of the Nurburgring. And you could take some friends with you on the lap. > The M5 holds the production car record for a lap of the Nurburgring. Not to get picky, but that record is held by the Radical SR3 Turbo. Second place was the Radical SR3 Tracksport; third, I believe, is held by Herr Rorhl in the new GT3. Porsche has not released an official time for the Carrera GT however. The M5 may hold the *sedan* record for the Ring but I am not aware of such a record being actively tracked by anyone. From: "CJS" <BIG@MEANIE.COM> Subject: Re: M5 vs ? Date: Monday, June 14, 2004 11:48 PM I took a test drive in a Z3 and found it to be rather mediocre in terms of handling. I thought it had little road feel compared to either my M3 or my vintage 911. Not a fair comparison. You should have compared the M roadster to those cars IMO... Fred W |
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