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Car Forum / BMW Cars / July 2004

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E28 experts required: Sunroof switch wiring loom - where does it run?

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DRP535 - 30 Jun 2004 02:36 GMT
Following a suggestion I read in this NG I purchased an illuminated
electric window switch to replace my (non-illuminated) sunroof switch in my
E28 M535i. I plugged it in and hey presto she works... sweeet!

Just one problem... went down the pub last night for half-price steak night
and unfortunately noticed in the dark through the window of the locked car
that the switch remains illuminated *all* the time regardless of key or
door position. Obviously this is a situation I would rather not have as the
battery and/or the filaments in the switch are not going to last very long
being permanently illuminated.

It would appear that my sunroof remains permanently powered. I have always
been able to move the sunroof without the key or with the front doors open
or closed. I now want to wire the sunroof power into the same circuit that
the windows are on - ie. they only operate with the ignition switched on or
with one of the front doors open.

Where does the sunroof power loom run in my E28? The car is RHD and I know
the electric window loom is in the footwell behind the loudspeaker and that
the relay for the front door jamb switches is behind the drop down valance
under the steering column because I had to find that when I installed the
relay for the windows to operate on the front door jamb switches.

Or is there an easier way to prevent the switch from remaining illuminated
all the time?
tech27 - 30 Jun 2004 04:36 GMT
> Following a suggestion I read in this NG I purchased an illuminated
> electric window switch to replace my (non-illuminated) sunroof switch in my
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> Or is there an easier way to prevent the switch from remaining illuminated
> all the time?

Don't worry about it. The bulb is easily replaced and the current draw will
shorten the battery life about 6 hours over 5 years.
DRP535 - 30 Jun 2004 05:32 GMT
>> Where does the sunroof power loom run in my E28? The car is RHD and I know
>> the electric window loom is in the footwell behind the loudspeaker and
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>Don't worry about it. The bulb is easily replaced and the current draw will
>shorten the battery life about 6 hours over 5 years.

Nah I *want* to worry about it though. It is not uncommon for my car to sit
unused for 2 weeks at a time. It is a very low use car. I've only done
36,000kms in the last 10 years. So you see, I don't think the battery will
put up with that. Even with the car alarm activated (though not armed - car
lives in locked garage) the battery will have been drained enough to not be
able to start the engine after two weeks. I have no doubt the sunroof
switch will do the same.

I agree that it probably isn't worth worrying about for a daily driver, but
for me, jump starting the car and constantly having to recharge the battery
are more painful than simply rewiring the sunroof switch (which I will only
have to do once afterall).
Fred W. - 01 Jul 2004 12:42 GMT
> Nah I *want* to worry about it though. It is not uncommon for my car to sit
> unused for 2 weeks at a time. It is a very low use car. I've only done
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> are more painful than simply rewiring the sunroof switch (which I will only
> have to do once afterall).

I agree with you.  Additionally, I would not want the sunroof to be active
without a key.  Think of what might happen when you leave the kiddies in the
car for a minute or two?  I would determine what else is on that circuit and
then rewire it to be key switched power.

-Fred W
 
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