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John E Yurkon - 29 Dec 2004 04:22 GMT

I tried a Treo 650 smartphone, after intalling the latest carkit update for
it, with a 2005 525i. It worked flawlessly. Of course I only used it for a
short time at the dealership but all the functions I tried worked well. It
also downloaded the quickdial list from the phone. Before installing the
carkit update on the Treo things weren't so nice.

I hope this is true for 2004 vehicles as well because I now plan on
installing a bluetooth kit in an M3.

I was told by the dealership that there are no plans for making a bluetooth
install kit that is compatible with assist for 2004 and earlier vehicles.
Can anyone verify this?

John

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Pete M - 29 Dec 2004 05:02 GMT

In news:cqtbdk$2he1$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu,
John E Yurkon <yurkon@msu.edu> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with
a rant as follows

> I tried a Treo 650 smartphone, after intalling the latest carkit
> update for it, with a 2005 525i. It worked flawlessly. Of course I
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> bluetooth install kit that is compatible with assist for 2004 and
> earlier vehicles. Can anyone verify this?

Someone I know has a 2003 530d and the bluetooth car kit has caused
monumental problems with the iDrive system, it was fitted by a BMW main
agent and since fitting the car has suffered from some pretty serious
problems, eg iDrive has crashed a few times and at one point the bluetooth
system caused the headlights to switch off at random times. Since the
bluetooth install the iDrive set up has been very unreliable.

Maybe this is why BMW are avoiding bluetooth setups?

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John Carrier - 29 Dec 2004 12:52 GMT

> In news:cqtbdk$2he1$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu,
> John E Yurkon <yurkon@msu.edu> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls
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> system caused the headlights to switch off at random times. Since the
> bluetooth install the iDrive set up has been very unreliable.

Was the E60 marketed as a 2003 in Europe? Don't think so.

R / John

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Pete M - 29 Dec 2004 14:09 GMT

In news:pMqdnQyPG-APNU_cRVn-2Q@comcast.com,
John Carrier <jxc2@comcast.net> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls
with a rant as follows

>> In news:cqtbdk$2he1$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu,
>> John E Yurkon <yurkon@msu.edu> decided to enlighten our sheltered
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>
> Was the E60 marketed as a 2003 in Europe? Don't think so.

Might be early 2004. It's a UK "53" plate. Which means between Sept 03 and
March 04.

It's an E60 anyway, it's got iDrive - or did you miss that bit?

Jeez.

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Mercedes 260E - BMW 730iSE (nowhere near as good as the Merc)
Ford Capri (ressurection started)
"Never moon a werewolf"

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Andrew Thomas - 29 Dec 2004 19:47 GMT

> > In news:cqtbdk$2he1$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu,
> > John E Yurkon <yurkon@msu.edu> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> >
> > Someone I know has a 2003 530d and the bluetooth car kit has caused

> > monumental problems with the iDrive system, it was fitted by a BMW main
> > agent and since fitting the car has suffered from some pretty serious
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Was the E60 marketed as a 2003 in Europe? Don't think so.

Cars are not marketed as "model years" in most European countries. If
the car was built and delivered in the 2,003rd Year of Our Lord, then
it's generally a 2003 car. (This neatly gets around the mild idiocy in
having a "2004 model year" car launched in March of the previous year
and that model "year" lasting for up to 18 months.) "Model year" does
not seem to be used as as selling tool by any manufacturers outside of
Detroit, come to think of it.

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Pete M - 29 Dec 2004 23:02 GMT

In news:1104349641.539337.224910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,
Andrew Thomas <andrewj_nospamthomas@yahoo.com.au> decided to enlighten our
sheltered souls with a rant as follows

>>> In news:cqtbdk$2he1$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu,
>>> John E Yurkon <yurkon@msu.edu> decided to enlighten our sheltered
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> year" does not seem to be used as as selling tool by any
> manufacturers outside of Detroit, come to think of it.

Leave him be. He's one of the reasons why BMW drivers have the reputation
they do.

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Andrew Thomas - 30 Dec 2004 12:23 GMT

> >> Was the E60 marketed as a 2003 in Europe? Don't think so.
> >
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> Leave him be. He's one of the reasons why BMW drivers have the reputation
> they do.

Hunh? I was merely detailing the different nomenclature used outside
of the US (where model year is used frequently - if not exclusively -
as a differentiator). For "Detroit", read "the U.S. car industry",
since Japanese manufacturers building cars in the U.S. also use
flexible "model years" to differentiate their models. Perhaps you
wereupset by this colloqualism (used, incidentally, by the world's
motoring press to describe same?).

And how this relates to my driving style can only come from the fruits
of your expansive imagination. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten me :).

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Andrew Thomas - 30 Dec 2004 12:27 GMT

> >> Was the E60 marketed as a 2003 in Europe? Don't think so.
> >
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> > year" does not seem to be used as as selling tool by any
> > manufacturers outside of Detroit, come to think of it.

> Leave him be. He's one of the reasons why BMW drivers have the reputation
> they do.

Hunh? I was merely detailing the different nomenclature used outside
of the US motor industry (colloq. "Detroit") where the flexible model
year merely serves to confuse (as highlighted by this thread). Or were
you advising me instead? :)

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Pete M - 30 Dec 2004 15:48 GMT

In news:1104409663.817957.315330@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,
Andrew Thomas <andrewj_nospamthomas@yahoo.com.au> decided to enlighten our
sheltered souls with a rant as follows

>>>> Was the E60 marketed as a 2003 in Europe? Don't think so.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> year merely serves to confuse (as highlighted by this thread). Or
> were you advising me instead? :)

What you stated was entirely correct.

My reason for saying "leave him be" was that he appears to be one of the
strange breed of motorists, particularly BMW driving ones unfortunately,
that jump down the throat of anyone saying things that aren't favourable to
their particular "ultimate brand".

The kind of person that gets BMW drivers the reputation of being know
nothing, whining gobshites, who lease a car purely to impress other people.

You, on the other hand, were merely advising him as to how the real world
regards model years. Something which I take for granted.

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