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Car Forum / BMW Cars / February 2005

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E65 / E66 Sat Nav.... speed camera detection

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Paul Aspinall - 05 Feb 2005 17:17 GMT
Hi
Does anyone know if there are plans for the BMW sat nav system to alert to
speed camera locations??

There is an abundance of systems which alert drivers to speed camera
locations, from PDA / IPAQ systems, to dedicated Sat Nav systems.

It seems strange that this functionality does not exist on the top of the
line BMW Sat Nav system.

Paul
'2002 745Li
'2000 740i Sport
'98 740i Sport
Paul Martin - 06 Feb 2005 05:46 GMT
If you're going so far over the speed limit that you can't SEE the speed
camera before it takes your photo then you deserve a ticket...

> Hi
> Does anyone know if there are plans for the BMW sat nav system to alert to
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> '2000 740i Sport
> '98 740i Sport
Paul Aspinall - 06 Feb 2005 10:15 GMT
Yawn....

Such a self-righteous pompous answer......

You want to tell that to all the manufacturers and purchasers of speed
camera detectors everywhere??

> If you're going so far over the speed limit that you can't SEE the speed
> camera before it takes your photo then you deserve a ticket...
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>> '2000 740i Sport
>> '98 740i Sport
Paul Martin - 06 Feb 2005 10:31 GMT
Hmmm...

I don't recall stating that I don't speed in my reply. Everybody speeds at
some point in their day, and often it can be perfectly safe to do so.
What I AM saying is that I pay enough attention to the road and my
surroundings to actually 'notice' speed cameras, or likely hiding spots for
them. If you're going so fast that you can't see them coming you deserve a
ticket...

As with your reading, you probably don't pay that much attention whilst
driving either, otherwise you would have picked up on that in my reply. You
did read it carefully didn't you?

Speed camera detectors are illegal where I live - and so they should be.
What's the point of that?

Should we point out the location of random breath testing locations for
drunk drivers as well?

I will tell you with certainty that BMW will never incorporate such a system
in to their OEM navigation systems. They are not that stupid.

> Yawn....
>
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>>> '2000 740i Sport
>>> '98 740i Sport
Andrew Thomas - 07 Feb 2005 01:56 GMT
> Hmmm...

> Speed camera detectors are illegal where I live - and so they should be.
> What's the point of that?

He is talking about overlaid GPS waypoints, not a laser/radar-based
camera detector.  The two are quite different.  It cannot be possible
for a device which tells you information that is in the public domain
(i.e. the position of fixed speed cameras) to be illegal - not in a
stable democratic country, anyway.  The morality of a detector for
mobile cameras is open to debate.  Personally I like the idea, since I
don't like being criminalised when gangs of chavs, thugs and scum roam
the streets where *I* live committing crimes willy-nilly whilst the
police are out terrorising motorists doing 35 in a 30.  (I tink you
have to live in the UK and put up with the crime here before you can
pass judgment on this one!)  Perhaps if crime and thuggery was given
more attention by the government, we would be more likely to toe the
line, and forego the capital outlay on a detector.  As it is, it's open
season.

> Should we point out the location of random breath testing locations for
> drunk drivers as well?

I won't enter into a debate about whether drink-driving is worse than
"speeding", except to say that the first is always bad, and the second
is often bad only when dictated by the State, and not common sense.
(There are clearly times when you don't need a politician or a copper
to tell you that excessive speed in some circumstances is stupid.)

> I will tell you with certainty that BMW will never incorporate such a system
> in to their OEM navigation systems. They are not that stupid.

But several GPS device manufacturers *are* stupid enough to make
devices with updated databases of fixed speed camera locations, and
they sell very well.  Naturally BMW won't do this from the factory, but
all it is is a table of waypoints...
John Burns - 06 Feb 2005 11:12 GMT
> If you're going so far over the speed limit that you can't SEE the speed
> camera before it takes your photo then you deserve a ticket...

Where I live some of them are hidden behind road signs.

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Paul Aspinall - 06 Feb 2005 17:13 GMT
Agreed John,

They are hidden near me also.

I think its a little naff having an E66, but with an IPAQ to warn me of
speed camera locations etc....

I know the RAC have a similar system available in their Trackstar vehcile
tracking system. It would just be nice to have all this stuff as factory
options...

Cheers

>> If you're going so far over the speed limit that you can't SEE the speed
>> camera before it takes your photo then you deserve a ticket...
>
> Where I live some of them are hidden behind road signs.
Steve Parry - 06 Feb 2005 19:20 GMT
Paul Martin fumbled, fiddled and fingered:

> If you're going so far over the speed limit that you can't SEE the
> speed camera before it takes your photo then you deserve a ticket...

Take a look at

http://www.abd.org.uk/local/north_wales_cameras.htm

and scroll down to Greenfield

Now rethink your statement 'cos the camera is unseen at any speed until
you're on it.

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