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Car Forum / BMW Cars / February 2005BMW M5 E34 Version
Hi, was the E34 version of the M5 ever made with an automatic box? And what was the top speed, 0-60 and BHP of the E34 M5? Thanks No, they never made it with an auto box, and power output was around 340HP IIRC. > Hi, was the E34 version of the M5 ever made with an automatic box? And > what was the top speed, 0-60 and BHP of the E34 M5? I'll bet both were limited to 155mph. 3.6 was 315bhp, 3.8 was 341bhp in UK/euro trim. Never made as an auto. I'd suggest an Alpina B10 3.5 or V8 if you want auto. My fiance has a manual B10 3.5 and it's great.  SignatureWho needs a life when you've got Unix? :-) Email: john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk, John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage! Need Sun or HP Unix kit? http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/unix.html It use to be that ALL M cars never had automatics. However, with the new E60 M5 coming with its 7 speed SMG-III, that is changing. Of course, I'm assuming that the new 7 speed tranny has an "automatic" mode.... >It use to be that ALL M cars never had automatics. However, with the >new E60 M5 coming with its 7 speed SMG-III, that is changing. Of >course, I'm assuming that the new 7 speed tranny has an "automatic" >mode.... It used to be that *real* ///M cars were hand assembled in their own factory away from the main production line, but that all stopped after the E34 M5 which was the last real ///M car. Everything bearing the badge since is just a tarted up production line example. DRP535 asserts: <It used to be that *real* ///M cars were hand assembled in their own factory away from the main production line, but that all stopped after the E34 M5 which was the last real ///M car. Everything bearing the badge since is just a tarted up production line example. > I disagree in part. While I agree that the E39 M5 is not "hand-assembled" like the E34 M5, it does use a completely different engine than the standard 4.4 liter M62 V8 engine found in the E39 540, E38 740 or E53 X5. In fact, only the E52 Z8 used this same 5.0 liter S62 V8 engine. >DRP535 asserts: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >E38 740 or E53 X5. In fact, only the E52 Z8 used this same 5.0 liter >S62 V8 engine. Yes I know but the character, the feeling, the vibe, just isn't the same. The E39 M5 is fat, bloated and hugely overweight. To be honest the E34 was a lot softer even that the E28, but it still retained the screaming 6 cylinder engine and most of the other genuine ///M aspects. The E39 however threw those pretensions out the window in favour of truely mass-production and larger sales numbers. I don't disagree that the E39 M5 is "fat, bloated and hugely overweight", especially when compared to the E28 M5, which like the E30 M3 are consider *real* M cars. However, the bigger problem is that in today's market, outside of maybe a Lotus Elise, ALL cars are "fat, bloated and hugely overweight". BMW is only providing what customers want. Notwithstanding emissions and crash requirements, all these cars are loaded down with amenities that too the purist are unnecessary. But, let's look at reality. Compare the E39 M5 to its competition and it is heads and tails above them all, period. Similarly, the new E60 M5 will be too, even with its 7-speed SMG-III autobox! Of course, the competition, like the Cadillac V-series, is definitely getting better and should keep BMW M engineers on their toes! > It use to be that ALL M cars never had automatics. However, with the > new E60 M5 coming with its 7 speed SMG-III, that is changing. Of > course, I'm assuming that the new 7 speed tranny has an "automatic" > mode.... E36 M3's were available with *real* automatics (w/ torque convertors) for a number of years. -Fred W >I'll bet both were limited to 155mph. Correct. >3.6 was 315bhp, 3.8 was 341bhp in UK/euro trim. Are you sure? I don't want to argue over 1bhp (and especially not with somebody who runs such a great BMW web site!), but I always thought that the 3.8 was only rated at 340bhp. SignaturePhilip K Hertfordshire, England 1995 BMW ///M5 3.8 (missing 1bhp) 1989 Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 Sport Coupe (only 231bhp) |
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