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Car Forum / BMW Cars / March 2005

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323Ci standard wheel size

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Richard Spare - 26 Mar 2005 23:59 GMT
I'm renewing my insurance this month and have been asked whether the car has
any modifications. I have 225 x 18" front and 255 x 18 rear. I suspect these
are not standard for a 2000 323Ci. Does anyone know what the standard sizes
are?

Cheers
Richard
fbloogyudsr - 27 Mar 2005 01:36 GMT
> I'm renewing my insurance this month and have been asked whether the car
> has any modifications. I have 225 x 18" front and 255 x 18 rear. I suspect
> these are not standard for a 2000 323Ci. Does anyone know what the
> standard sizes are?

I think that came with 205/55R16, or 225/45R17 with sport package.

Floyd
Jeff Strickland - 29 Mar 2005 02:12 GMT
Those options are among the factory choices.

> I'm renewing my insurance this month and have been asked whether the car
> has any modifications. I have 225 x 18" front and 255 x 18 rear. I suspect
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> Cheers
> Richard
Jeff Strickland - 29 Mar 2005 02:12 GMT
Those options are among the factory choices.

> I'm renewing my insurance this month and have been asked whether the car
> has any modifications. I have 225 x 18" front and 255 x 18 rear. I suspect
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> Cheers
> Richard
Richard Spare - 29 Mar 2005 21:15 GMT
Jeff
Is there any way of proving that these sizes were offered as options on this
car for that year?
Cheers
Richard

> Those options are among the factory choices.
>
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>> Cheers
>> Richard
Jeff Strickland - 29 Mar 2005 22:34 GMT
Besides looking in the owner's manual or on the door jamb?

The insurance company doesn't really care that the car has 18" wheels unless
they will be required to insure them. If they are not advised that they will
be insuring them, then they will resist paying a claim for them later.

Frankly, I would simply drive the car to the insurance agent's office and
let him give you a quote. It really shouldn't cause the questions you asked.
The modifications they want to know about are those that increase their risk
factor, is the car lifted, is the engine modified for speed, that sort of
thing.

> Jeff
> Is there any way of proving that these sizes were offered as options on this
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> >> Cheers
> >> Richard
Richard Spare - 30 Mar 2005 19:55 GMT
That might be true in your country Jeff (i'm assuming your not in the UK)
but I know someone that had their car written off and the insurance company
tried to wriggle out of paying due to not declaring the non standard wheels.
I think the two parties came to an understanding in the end but i figure,
why take the risk?
The door jamb and owners manual won't tell me if BMW supplied them as a
standard option or whether a previous owner fitted them. In any case the car
is at the body shop having its subframe mounts repaired so I couldn't look
at the door jamb or manual if I wanted to.

> Besides looking in the owner's manual or on the door jamb?
>
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>> >> Richard
Jeff Strickland - 30 Mar 2005 21:02 GMT
I agree that they will wiggle out of paying for the non standard wheels,
this is why you need to go to the insurance office so the guy that writes
your policy can take a look. Whether they were added by a previous owner or
by the factory, they are a standard option that should pass muster with the
insurance company. They are not a "modification" as much as they are
"optional equipment."

The car being at the body shop is a temporary condition, you can look at the
door jamb in a week or so.

> That might be true in your country Jeff (i'm assuming your not in the UK)
> but I know someone that had their car written off and the insurance company
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> >> >> Richard
Richard Spare - 30 Mar 2005 21:46 GMT
The difference between declaring them or not is ?50 ($90ish) from one of the
direct insurers. They just note that the wheels are declared non-standard so
I guess i'll pay it and be done with it as their quote is still ?70 cheaper
than the next best quote i've had.

Thanks for your help Jeff.

>I agree that they will wiggle out of paying for the non standard wheels,
> this is why you need to go to the insurance office so the guy that writes
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>> >> >> Richard
Jeff Strickland - 30 Mar 2005 22:50 GMT
They are a factory option. If they are in fact BMW wheels, then insurance
should cover the replacement cost if the need ever arises. My car is fitted
with a complete set - including the tire in the trunk - of 17" rims. My
model had a 17" rim as an available option even if my particular car didn't
have the option installed. The insurance company will put whatever is on the
car back on the car if there is ever an insurance claim. The trouble I am
going to run into is that the cost of repairs might exceed the value of the
car, and the insurance carrier will simply total the car and scrap it when
this happens. You will eventually run into similar issues, but the tires and
rims are a small part of this decision.

On any case, this is not the kind of modification they are asking about when
they ask if the car has any modifications. They have no way of telling when
BMW wheels are installed, and if you have pictures of the car they insured,
then they will have a difficult time weasling out of covering them. If you
had the El Cheapo rims on the car, then put on good rims later, then they
might try to avoid paying for the upgrades. For all you know, these are the
foactory original rims if they are indeed BMW parts. And, BMW offered 18"
rims for that car.

Good luck ...

> The difference between declaring them or not is ?50 ($90ish) from one of the
> direct insurers. They just note that the wheels are declared non-standard so
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> >> >> >> Richard
Henrik Ohm Eriksen - 30 Mar 2005 23:25 GMT
should you not be able to see the wheel options shipped on the car as part
of the options list - ie. ask bmw for the shipped options list from your VIN
number...

/HEnrik
> They are a factory option. If they are in fact BMW wheels, then insurance
> should cover the replacement cost if the need ever arises. My car is
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>> >> >> >> Richard
 
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