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Car Forum / BMW Cars / April 2005

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Air Con has stopped working

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Richard Spare - 14 Apr 2005 21:50 GMT
Hi

I turned the aircon on my 2000 e46 323Ci today and although the dash
indicator lights, the air coming from the vents doesn't feel cold. It worked
last summer. I can see a small dip in revs at idle the instant the button is
pressed, these revs then normalise so that would suggest the compressor is
working. I am assuming therefore that the aircon needs regassing. Is this a
fair assumption? How often do I need to do this? Is there a way of telling
if this is really the problem?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers
Rich
Dotcom Computers - 15 Apr 2005 09:36 GMT
> Hi
>
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> Cheers
> Rich

Have you used the air-con system regularly?

I'd take it to an air-con specialist (not a BMW Stealer!) and get a leak
test (think this is what its called) performed - this will show if it just a
re-gas that's needed, or more expensive remedial work.

Most air-con systems need to be switched on even during winter to keep all
the compressor seals lubricated.

Jason Russell
MW de Jager - 15 Apr 2005 12:31 GMT
>> Hi
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>
> Jason Russell

Jason is right

Seems as if you did not use the aircon at all, for quite some time.  The
manual suggests using it at least once a month, to prevent the seals from
drying out and leaking your gas out.  During a regas they will put some
"oil" in the system as well.  This should lube the seals and your problem
should be fixed.

MW
GRL - 16 Apr 2005 15:22 GMT
My wife's LS400 is almost 14 years old. The AC is used none at all each
winter. The AC has never been serviced and still cools great. Had similar
experiences with a Mazda 626, a Ford F150, over 10 years each and a Yukon XL
for 5 years.

If not using the AC during the winter months causes the refrigerant to be
lost on a car this old, there is something very wrong with the AC system or
its design.

- GRL

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> MW
Dotcom Computers - 17 Apr 2005 08:24 GMT
> My wife's LS400 is almost 14 years old. The AC is used none at all
> each winter. The AC has never been serviced and still cools great.
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> - GRL

My dad used to own an 1984 Toyata Cressida - the handbook stated that the
air-com system needed to used at least once a month to keep the seals
lubricated.

YMMV, but I'd say prevention is better than a cure for air-con ills.
Dotcom Computers - 17 Apr 2005 08:26 GMT
> My wife's LS400 is almost 14 years old. The AC is used none at all
> each winter. The AC has never been serviced and still cools great.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> - GRL

My dad used to own an 1984 Toyata Cressida - the handbook stated that the
air-com system needed to used at least once a month to keep the seals
lubricated.

YMMV, but I'd say prevention is better than a cure for air-con ills.
Dave Plowman (News) - 17 Apr 2005 09:09 GMT
> If not using the AC during the winter months causes the refrigerant to
> be lost on a car this old, there is something very wrong with the AC
> system or its design.

I've got an older car that runs the compressor when you select 'defrost'.
I'd say this is to make sure it gets used in the winter at some time -
although it would depend on how hard your winters are.

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Richard Spare - 17 Apr 2005 21:06 GMT
So in summary, what you guys are saying is that I screwed my aircon because
I didn't read the manual and run the compressor periodically. I screw up the
assembly of flat pack furniture for the same reason.

Thanks for your help.
Richard

> Hi
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> Cheers
> Rich
Dave Plowman (News) - 17 Apr 2005 22:26 GMT
> So in summary, what you guys are saying is that I screwed my aircon
> because I didn't read the manual and run the compressor periodically. I
> screw up the assembly of flat pack furniture for the same reason.

Wimp. It's far more fun to assemble furniture without a manual. Drawers
which tip the contents onto the floor when pulled out are fun.

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Dotcom Computers - 18 Apr 2005 19:04 GMT
>> So in summary, what you guys are saying is that I screwed my aircon
>> because I didn't read the manual and run the compressor
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> Wimp. It's far more fun to assemble furniture without a manual.
> Drawers which tip the contents onto the floor when pulled out are fun.

LOL - too true Dave, too true
Richard Spare - 19 Apr 2005 19:06 GMT
Except when it happens to your better half! Then the ensuing bollocking
isn't so funny..lol

>> So in summary, what you guys are saying is that I screwed my aircon
>> because I didn't read the manual and run the compressor periodically. I
>> screw up the assembly of flat pack furniture for the same reason.
>
> Wimp. It's far more fun to assemble furniture without a manual. Drawers
> which tip the contents onto the floor when pulled out are fun.
Dean Dark - 17 Apr 2005 22:42 GMT
>So in summary, what you guys are saying is that I screwed my aircon because
>I didn't read the manual and run the compressor periodically. I screw up the
>assembly of flat pack furniture for the same reason.

You actually *buy* flat pack furniture?  Jeez, that stuff's for real
cheapskates.
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Dan.

darren  williams - 18 Apr 2005 20:48 GMT
the revs will dip due to the current being drawn on the air con unit it
does it on my 316
cheers
darren
 
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