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Vernon Balbert - 28 Apr 2005 10:13 GMT I just saw a commercial for NuFinish car polish. I've been seeing commercials for this since I was a kid and am wondering if its claims are even close to truth. Seven bucks (list price) seems to be a good deal for something that is as good as it claims to be. I'm just curious if anybody has tried it and what thoughts there are about it.
Vern
JimV - 29 Apr 2005 00:43 GMT > I just saw a commercial for NuFinish car polish. I've been seeing > commercials for this since I was a kid and am wondering if its claims [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Vern I've been using it for years and am happy with it. Consumer reports named it a best buy a few years ago.
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 02:57 GMT You been using it on german paints? IMHO it's junk, and on german paints not only is it junk but it's so bad you'll go back and strip it and put some proper wax on it. Let's put it this way, my dad has a bottle of it in his garage he bought in the 70's. He used it once, then threw it back behind all the stuff he actually uses. Everything I've read about its use on German paints indicates that it leads to cloudiness.
JimV - 29 Apr 2005 03:10 GMT > You been using it on german paints? IMHO it's junk, and on german > paints not only is it junk but it's so bad you'll go back and strip it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > read about its use on German paints indicates that it leads to > cloudiness. And what do you think is so special about "german" top coats? It works fine for me. Your mileage may vary. :-)
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 08:37 GMT Well, nobody has ever found the difference, though some suspect its those very same ingredients that make the german paints (mostly made by glasurit) illegal in the US (the finished product can be shipped here, but the paint can neither be made nor applied here). It's not just nufinish that clouds german paints, but any polymer based product.
Pete - 29 Apr 2005 09:11 GMT > It's not just > nufinish that clouds german paints, but any polymer based product. Zaino Z2 is a polymer sealant. I have never heard of anyone having issues with it clouding the paint, including myself.
Pete
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 14:52 GMT You bring up a good point about the Zaino as I've never heard a complaint about them, but I have heard complaints about almost every other polymer product. Ignoring the polymer issue, I think there are two rules with NuFinish: you get what you pay for and if it's too good to be true, it is. NuFinish's commercials make it look like a wonder product, therefore it's garbage much like gs27. Also, it's $7...how good can it be? There's no such thing as a miracle product with wax, everything has trade-offs. I say if you're parking inside use P21S if you're parking outside use one grand blitz wax.
Darryl Okahata - 29 Apr 2005 17:51 GMT > You bring up a good point about the Zaino as I've never heard a > complaint about them, but I have heard complaints about almost every > other polymer product. Ignoring the polymer issue, I think there are > two rules with NuFinish: you get what you pay for and if it's too good > to be true, it is. NuFinish's commercials make it look like a wonder You need to hang out in the detailing sections of the various BMW enthusiast sites. ;-) Both Zaino and Klass are very highly rated (for polymer sealants). Although, as far as I remember, they're pretty much the only two polymer sealants talked about (I'm sure there are others, but the majority of polymer talk seems to revolve around these two brands).
And, if you're really hardcore, you'll put a P21S/S100 (or similar) topper on top of the Klass or Zaino. ;-)
I agree about NuFinish. I'd be very surprised if it even came close to Zaino or Klass.
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marlinspike - 30 Apr 2005 10:23 GMT Hehe, Klasse was the only one I was thinking about when I said "almost every other polymer product" I don't know what it is about those two. I always do, for a car I wanted to look good and not necessarily have the wax last long, P21S gloss enhancing paintwork cleanser (0, 1, or 2 coats, depending on paint) and P21S wax (1 or 2 coats depending on paint).
spare-me-spam - 29 Apr 2005 15:48 GMT I can't WAIT to hear you explain how "secret ingredient German paint " is applied to the Spartanburg built cars.
| Well, nobody has ever found the difference, though some suspect its | those very same ingredients that make the german paints (mostly made by | glasurit) illegal in the US (the finished product can be shipped here, | but the paint can neither be made nor applied here). It's not just | nufinish that clouds german paints, but any polymer based product. marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 17:32 GMT Um...it's not. That simple. Part of the reason the spartanburg cars' paint don't look alive like the german cars' paints
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 17:33 GMT Um...it's not. That simple. Part of the reason the spartanburg cars' paint don't look alive like the german cars' paints
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 17:35 GMT Sorry about the multi-post. Google groups thing is wierd on the college isp.
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 17:33 GMT Um...it's not. That simple. Part of the reason the spartanburg cars' paint don't look alive like the german cars' paints
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 17:34 GMT Oh, and if you don't believe me, it's simple to fact check. Go to a body shop that does a good bit of german car repainting. Ask them if they use the original Glasurit, then ask them why they don't.
Pete - 29 Apr 2005 08:27 GMT > Let's put it this way, my dad has a > bottle of it in his garage he bought in the 70's. So, it's not possible that in 30 years NuFinish has changed its formulation? That's like saying, "I bought a Honda econobox in the '70s, it sucked. Honda sucks forever."*
But I did try NuFinish on a Nissan about 10 years ago, and I wasn't impressed either. Not sure if the current NuFinish is any better. On my A4 I've been using Zaino for a few years now and am very happy with the results as well as durability.
Cheers,
Pete
* Actually, compared to a fine German car, Honda still sucks, but not as badly as those from the '70s. :)
marlinspike - 29 Apr 2005 08:38 GMT Compare a new honda to a 1970's Mercedes or BMW and you'll see that Honda still sucks big time. I don't put my money in companies that don't care about their product.
Matt O'Toole - 29 Apr 2005 19:15 GMT > Compare a new honda to a 1970's Mercedes or BMW and you'll see that > Honda still sucks big time. I don't put my money in companies that > don't care about their product. Would that be the Mercedes with the perenially broken climate control, or the BMW with the leaky head gasket? I'm old enough to remember both...
Matt O.
fbloogyudsr - 29 Apr 2005 19:22 GMT > marlinspike wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the > BMW with the leaky head gasket? I'm old enough to remember both... Or the mid-to-late '70's Bimmers that all had faded paint, especially on the hoods?
Floyd - former owner of E21 & E12 faded paint and rusty rocker-panel BMWs
Matt O'Toole - 29 Apr 2005 19:25 GMT > I just saw a commercial for NuFinish car polish. I've been seeing > commercials for this since I was a kid and am wondering if its claims > are even close to truth. Seven bucks (list price) seems to be a good > deal for something that is as good as it claims to be. I'm just > curious if anybody has tried it and what thoughts there are about it. There are dozens of products like this, from many wax companies. At the same price point they're all about the same.
Some say a German brand of wax/polish is better for a German car, because it's formulated for German paint. From personal experience this was true back in the 80s -- I had better luck with Bolit and P21s products on my E30 cars. But I think this is a lot less true than it used to be. Paints have become more alike, and so have the waxes/polishes. American wax/polish companies go to great lengths to make their products work on all finishes. It's a very competitive industry. A Mother's or Maguiar's product is probably just as good as as similarly priced P21s, etc. As with many things, you don't always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for.
Matt O.
Saintor - 01 May 2005 14:07 GMT Don't listen to naysayers with extreme Germanophile attitude.
I have been using NuFinish for 15+ years on a variety of vehicles (including German) and the result have always been more than satisfactory. Long lasting with fair look. I applied it 4x a year and it is a painless and quick process.
I have one reserve. On my 2005 car, BMW recommends a Carnauba based 'wax'. NuFinish is polymers based. For this reason, I might buy something else like 'Mothers' or 'Meguiars' this time.
Just a word about car soaps with Carnauba that I have been using for 3 years (I wash every 2-4 weeks... that's possible when you don't have a dark colored car ;o) ) ; I have seen a difference and a coat build-up with 'Sunshine'. I recommend it.
> I just saw a commercial for NuFinish car polish. I've been seeing > commercials for this since I was a kid and am wondering if its claims [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Vern Tom Korth - 01 May 2005 17:11 GMT > Don't listen to naysayers with extreme Germanophile attitude. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > lasting with fair look. I applied it 4x a year and it is a painless and > quick process. I also used Nu-Finish in th 1980's, but not on German vehicles. As you said, satisfactory, inexpensive and fairly easy to apply - but not wonderful.
> I have one reserve. On my 2005 car, BMW recommends a Carnauba based > 'wax'. > NuFinish is polymers based. For this reason, I might buy something else > like 'Mothers' or 'Meguiars' this time. I hope you're not referring to Meguiars cleaner-wax. This petroleum based product did a very poor job on my black Z3. Although not cheap, I've had excellent results with Zymol (about 37% carnauba).
Tom
marlinspike - 01 May 2005 19:13 GMT Have you tried the P21S wax Tom? Cheaper than Zymol and it's AMAZING on dark colored cars, especially if you prep with p21s gloss enhancing paintwork cleanser.
Tom Korth - 01 May 2005 20:06 GMT > Have you tried the P21S wax Tom? Cheaper than Zymol and it's AMAZING on > dark colored cars, especially if you prep with p21s gloss enhancing > paintwork cleanser. Not yet. Since I traded my black Z3, my two cars are Electric Red & Maldives Blue. But if you still recommend P21S for those colors, I'll try it after using up my supply of Zymol. Thanks.
Tom
marlinspike - 01 May 2005 20:16 GMT I'd still recommend it. I buy my stuff from carcareonline.com. I've never bought from this website I'm about to link to, but I'm linking to it to show two pics that I find to be a realistic representation http://www.properautocare.com/p21spastewax.html
Darryl Okahata - 02 May 2005 15:41 GMT > Have you tried the P21S wax Tom? Cheaper than Zymol and it's AMAZING on If you have a Harley dealer nearby, you can also get some S100 wax, which is supposedly the same as P21S, but under a different name (and cheaper, too).
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DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day.
marlinspike - 02 May 2005 16:12 GMT You know, I've heard that it's the same but cheaper, but I've heard somewhere else, I forget where, that it's basically the same but ever so slightly different, so that, coupled with the fact that the nearest harley dealer is an hour drive from me, I just get the P21S.
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