> I had called up BMW FS after posting this message. The lady I spoke to
> told me that once the transfer takes place (it takes about 30 days) my
> name will be taken off the car and, then on, I will not be responsible
> for any fault the new owner of the car -- whether it is damage he/she
> causes to the car or any payment he/she misses. Is there any fine print
> I am missing here? What exactly is legacy exposure?
>> I had called up BMW FS after posting this message. The lady I spoke to
>> told me that once the transfer takes place (it takes about 30 days) my
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>transfers are to the secondary market, and for that market most finance arms
>require you to stay on as a signer.
That's assuming that Driz orrigionally had no trade in or down
payment. The savings to a new leasee could be quite substantial.
> > I had called up BMW FS after posting this message. The lady I spoke to
> > told me that once the transfer takes place (it takes about 30 days) my
> > name will be taken off the car and, then on, I will not be responsible
> > for any fault the new owner of the car -- whether it is damage he/she
> > causes to the car or any payment he/she misses. Is there any fine print
> > I am missing here? What exactly is legacy exposure?
Thanks Ross.
> You aren't missing fine print, but be careful of what sounds good but is not
> explained fully. It is seldom that BMWFS will transfer the lease to someone
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> many lease transfers are to people who don't have the best qualifications.
> It isn't as clean-cut as it seems.
>From most of the postings I see in leasetrader.com, the cars up there
for 'lease transfer' are with low monthly payments. For instance,
someone may have paid a 7K upfront and paying $250 monthly and want to
get out of the lease when he has 12 months to go. The buyer has all
reasons to take up the lease because he need only pay $250x12 to enjoy
the cool car. My point is, the buyer doesn't have to be a person with
not-so-good financial qualifications..
> The rate of default on lease transfers, just like used car loans, is quite
> high compared to original leases, and for that reason BMWFS, and most
> finance arms, keep a lot of ammo in the file. And in that effort when
> someone who has "close-to" qualifications for the lease applies to BMWFS,
> they make the lease transfer but cover their exposure by keeping you on as
> secondary collateral.
In the case of BMWFS, the process apparantly is:
Buyer (i.e., the person who is going to take over the lease) submits a
credit application to BMWFS; if it gets approved then the transfer
process begins. Your argument would hold if BMWFS decides to be lenient
on the credit check of the buyer .. but what does it stand to gain?
If i decide to do this lease transfer, would it be sifficient to make
sure that I am not in the lease transfer agreement as a collateral for
anything??
> Think about it. Someone who fully qualifies to assume your lease without you
> staying on it, is also fully qualified to secure a lease on a new car. And
> because this is a lease there isn't any monetary incentive, on a monthly
> basis, to go used rather than new. The bottom line is that most lease
> transfers are to the secondary market, and for that market most finance arms
> require you to stay on as a signer.
See my point above. The buyer may just want to enjoy the Porche
experience for 9 months before settling on a family car like Volvo or
Passat. A lease transfer from someone who paid a big downpayment is an
ideal option for him/her.
I am still confused. Has anyone gone through the process of lease
transfer out there?
Somebody - 24 Jun 2005 21:53 GMT
> > > I had called up BMW FS after posting this message. The lady I spoke to
> > > told me that once the transfer takes place (it takes about 30 days) my
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> I am still confused. Has anyone gone through the process of lease
> transfer out there?
Why not just sell it? Are you very far offside the lease km? Are you
upside down on the car residual? Give us some numbers to work with.
-Russ.