Hi,
I've owned various German cars in the past: assorted VW's, '84 944, '87 MB
190, and '91 MB 300e. Now I want to get a BMW, but I know very little about
their various models. What I'm looking for is reliability foremost,
followed by fun to drive, and fuel economy. I like a stick but am not
adverse to automatics. Interior space is irrelevant because 99% of the time
I'll be the only one in it.
Can anyone recommend a year/model that fits my needs and may also appreciate
in value over time, or at least loose value more slowly than others?
Thanks,
Mike
ps: I have a Miata so I don't want another convertible in the stable.
Most of the driving will be in Florida, so dependable Air Conditioning
is important, too.
Dori A Schmetterling - 24 Sep 2005 17:49 GMT
Budget?
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> Most of the driving will be in Florida, so dependable Air
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Mike Hollywood - 24 Sep 2005 23:36 GMT
Budget isn't an issue.
> Budget?
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>> Most of the driving will be in Florida, so dependable Air
>> Conditioning is important, too.
Dori A Schmetterling - 25 Sep 2005 13:16 GMT
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B - 24 Sep 2005 19:21 GMT
My 2 cents worth, I bought a '94 740iL sedan with 62K miles in almost new
condition. Check to be sure if you get a mid 1990's V-8 that it is the
replacement Alusil block, Nikasil had problems in some cars, mostly '93-95 8
cylinder. I think by 1996 they all had Alusil. You can tell by the casting
number on the block, there are lots of posts on the internet with the info.
Anyway, I have had mine for 6 months now and love it, the A/C will freeze
you out, very smooth and fast sedan, comfortable, handles well, classic BMW
styling of the old E32. They are known for a few bugs but nothing in my
opinion that would prevent purchasing, every car has their particular points
of contention. I paid about $9K (probably too much) due to the fine
condition and low miles, and am not a bit disappointed. Would buy another
one tomorrow if I had to do it over again. My bias however is to big
comfortable sedans, so take that into consideration!
> Hi,
>
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> Most of the driving will be in Florida, so dependable Air
> Conditioning is important, too.
Mike Hollywood - 24 Sep 2005 23:37 GMT
Thanks for the info, but I'm not looking for a big car just
now. Something smaller.
> My 2 cents worth, I bought a '94 740iL sedan with 62K miles in almost new
> condition. Check to be sure if you get a mid 1990's V-8 that it is the
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>> Most of the driving will be in Florida, so dependable Air
>> Conditioning is important, too.
Floyd Rogers - 24 Sep 2005 19:48 GMT
> I've owned various German cars in the past: assorted VW's, '84 944, '87 MB
> 190, and '91 MB 300e. Now I want to get a BMW, but I know very little
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> appreciate in value over time, or at least loose value more slowly than
> others?
Very few cars appreciate in value; the exceptions are few and usually
expensive
to start with. No BMW models (exceptions are M1 and Z8, possibly 635csi/M6
and 850csi) have appreciated in value. Those were all limited-production and
quite expensive (about 450 M1's were built, and the Z8 cost about $100K
new).
I'm kind of guessing, but I'd say a late-model 3-series coupe would be
the ticket for you. Possibly an E36 325is or E46 with sports package.
That's model years '92-'06 (the E46 coupe is still in production.) There
are many E46 coupes from 4-5 years ago for sale for $20K or less: about
1/2 their original retail value.
FloydR
Mike Hollywood - 24 Sep 2005 23:38 GMT
Thanks for taking the time to fill me in on this
I'll investigate further. Looks promising.
MIke,
>> I've owned various German cars in the past: assorted VW's, '84 944, '87
>> MB 190, and '91 MB 300e. Now I want to get a BMW, but I know very little
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> FloydR
Tom K. - 26 Sep 2005 17:41 GMT
> Very few cars appreciate in value; the exceptions are few and usually
> expensive
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> quite expensive (about 450 M1's were built, and the Z8 cost about $100K
> new).
Agreed - except that the Z8 hasn't reached classic car status yet. A search
of CPO models listed by BMWNA shows about 10 selling from around $90 to
$115k. Original list started at $128,000 IIRC.
Now, if he can find a nice 507....
Tom
Zygfryd Homonto - 24 Sep 2005 20:24 GMT
"Mike Hollywood" <noone@nowheret.net> napisal takowe sprawy:
> Can anyone recommend a year/model that fits my needs and may also
> appreciate in value over time, or at least loose value more slowly
> than others?
http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/M/M5Sedan/gallery.htm
should be good enough
in case not then this one:
http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/7/760liSedan/
if still does not what you want then say how much you have and what
you really want from this car

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Mike Hollywood - 24 Sep 2005 23:40 GMT
Thanks for the links!
I'm frugal to a fault so I can pretty much
buy whatever I want cash.
This car will be an "adjuct car" used
for short hops, loan to friends who
visit, etc., not as primary transportation.
Mike.
> "Mike Hollywood" <noone@nowheret.net> napisal takowe sprawy:
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> if still does not what you want then say how much you have and what
> you really want from this car
Somebody. - 25 Sep 2005 13:51 GMT
I think the angels from the head of your pin could fix comfortably in a
low-mileage E36 318i from the last year or two of production.
Understanding that fuel economy trades off against performance; I would
otherwise recommend the 328iS. But stick for both of course.
E36's are far along the depreciation curve already, but their styling isn't
terribly dated and they're nice enough inside for your friends to be
impressed.
-Russ.
> Thanks for the links!
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> > if still does not what you want then say how much you have and what
> > you really want from this car
Mike Hollywood - 26 Sep 2005 00:37 GMT
Russ,
Thanks for the 318i input. I looked them up, and yepper,
that's exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks again,
Mike,
>I think the angels from the head of your pin could fix comfortably in a
> low-mileage E36 318i from the last year or two of production.
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>> > if still does not what you want then say how much you have and what
>> > you really want from this car
Malt_Hound - 26 Sep 2005 15:56 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> Most of the driving will be in Florida, so dependable Air Conditioning
> is important, too.
If your primary criteria is dependability you are looking at the wrong
brand. OTOH, if your primary criterai is *really* "fun to drive" and
secondary is reliability, then pretty much any late '90s through modern
day models would be fine. Since your next criteria is fuel economy (and
you still haven't mentioned anything performance related) I would
suggest the smallest engine 3 series that you can find.
Quite honestly, you should try to hone down your requirements just a
bit. Go out and drive some and see which models you like.

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