>> Recently I saw a very negative article about the 2006 530. I can't find
>> it. I'm thinking about the 530 wagon, and would appreciate any info.
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> FloydR
I did read an article that the current model 5 and 7 series are some
of the most unreliable cars on the road. About 15 cars made the list in
all including all Jaguars, most Mercedes, Porsche Cayenne.
All this electronical crap take time to debug.
John Burns - 01 Oct 2005 16:25 GMT
> I did read an article that the current model 5 and 7 series are some
> of the most unreliable cars on the road. About 15 cars made the list in
> all including all Jaguars, most Mercedes, Porsche Cayenne.
>
> All this electronical crap take time to debug.
And even main dealers have trouble doing that. Once these things get on
in years you'll need a damn good independant. But at lest things like
the wiring diagrams are now out on DVD.

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grinder - 03 Oct 2005 16:49 GMT
>I did read an article that the current model 5 and 7 series are some
> of the most unreliable cars on the road. About 15 cars made the list in
> all including all Jaguars, most Mercedes, Porsche Cayenne.
>
> All this electronical crap take time to debug.
I think consumer reports labeled the 530 as a best buy a year or so ago.
The 7 series does have problems in quality. I had someone at the dealership
tell me they once had the door handle just plain fall off a car in the
showroom and nobody was near it.
redline - 03 Oct 2005 18:48 GMT
Both 5 and 7 are crap.
here's is the complete list of cars in the unreliable junk pile. Not
opinion, just facts.
Bottom line, if you buy a 5 or 7, be prepared to spend some quality
time at the dealership.
http://www.forbes.com/vehicles/2005/07/05/luxury-cars-vehicles-lifestyle-cx_dl_0
705feat.html
330xi - 04 Oct 2005 02:06 GMT
> Both 5 and 7 are crap.
>
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>
> http://www.forbes.com/vehicles/2005/07/05/luxury-cars-vehicles-lifestyle-cx_dl_0
705feat.html
Redline thinks every BMW is crap.
I don't know why is watches this forum and annoys everyone with his
ramblings.
redline - 04 Oct 2005 02:38 GMT
yeah, I am pretty lame in that I think if you pay 60-80k for a 5-7
series, you would expect the car not to be on someones top 15 worst
cars list.
I do love BMWs, always have, but over the past 10 years the 5 and 7
series have lost their way in terms of quality. The only reason why I
think they sell so many 5/7 series is because they are leasable cars.
By that I mean the typical 5 or 7 series buyer does not know a lot
about BMW's or Mercedes for that matter. They are just buying the label
for a 2-3 year lease and if things break they really don't care so much
becuase they are just renting.
The 3 series tends to be financed more because of a lower price point
and of course BMW sells a lot more so the bugs are worked out quicker.
I apologize for sounding so negative, but the initial poster was
looking for objective answers. So I did not want to paint a rosey
picture when they are not rosey at the moment. I had a brand new E39
(1998 540i) and I will never forget my first service call at 2k miles.
The interior door handle on the driver's door broke off. And then again
every 10k miles. Dealer said the 7 series exterior doors handles had
the same problem. Of course the car had other issues. But geeze, and
damn door handle.
dizzy - 04 Oct 2005 03:32 GMT
>Both 5 and 7 are crap.
>
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>
>http://www.forbes.com/vehicles/2005/07/05/luxury-cars-vehicles-lifestyle-cx_dl_0
705feat.html
WTF? I could not help but notice, that both the Porsche and the VW
got caveats like the Cayenne "is still luxurious and incredibly
powerful" and the Toureg "is a beautiful, luxurious SUV that is a
pleasure to drive". Bribery?
330xi - 04 Oct 2005 03:58 GMT
>>Both 5 and 7 are crap.
>>
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> powerful" and the Toureg "is a beautiful, luxurious SUV that is a
> pleasure to drive". Bribery?
and the Toureg has had more problems and recalls than any in it's class.