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What type of motor oil should I use

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|| - 20 Oct 2005 06:39 GMT
What type of motor oil should I use for the following car.

BMW 1987 325 es
193,000 miles
Fall and Winter
I live in Philadelphia, Pa

Please explain why you choose that type of viscosity please.

Lex
Floyd Rogers - 20 Oct 2005 07:03 GMT
"||" <sl@npspam.com> wrote
> What type of motor oil should I use for the following car.
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> Please explain why you choose that type of viscosity please.

Why, is this a test?

Why don't you use what was the original spec:  20W50 for summer
and 10W40 in cold climates.

FloydR
Weird - 20 Oct 2005 13:49 GMT
Wow, a tough question dude. 10w-30 or 10w-40. Would not try one of the
5W-xx oils in an old car, they are a bit thin.

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Don Corleone - 20 Oct 2005 13:56 GMT
Liqui Moly (LubroMoly in the States) MoS2 10W40 (Mo2 Leichtlauf)

Good antifriction agent, and the correct viscosity range. Very well suited
for high milleage german engines.

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|| - 20 Oct 2005 17:19 GMT
Don Corleone,

I can't wait to try this "LubroMoly in the States".

Lex
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Don Corleone - 20 Oct 2005 17:24 GMT
In Germany and all the world, LiquiMoly. In the States, the same company
name is LubroMoly.

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|| - 20 Oct 2005 17:15 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions. I asked for an explanation because many people I
have asked keep suggesting different viscosities.  I do not know why!  What
I have researched is that certain oils provide protection between certain
temperature ranges.  But why so many, and which to choose is difficult for
me to figure out.

Lex

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Dave Plowman (News) - 20 Oct 2005 18:33 GMT
> Thanks for the suggestions. I asked for an explanation because many
> people I have asked keep suggesting different viscosities.  I do not
> know why!  What I have researched is that certain oils provide
> protection between certain temperature ranges.  But why so many, and
> which to choose is difficult for me to figure out.

If you don't have the driver's handbook, worth getting one or downloading
it. That will give the oil required. On an old car like this it will be
easy to find a modern oil that meets - or exceeds - the spec.

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330Xi - 20 Oct 2005 17:29 GMT
the new fad is 0w 40.... but in an old car, it can start to leak because it
is so thin, not always the best unless all your gaskets are new.
stick with what the manual suggests and you'll be fine
Malt_Hound - 20 Oct 2005 18:32 GMT
> the new fad is 0w 40.... but in an old car, it can start to leak because it
> is so thin, not always the best unless all your gaskets are new.
> stick with what the manual suggests and you'll be fine

Pop quiz:
Which oil is thinner when the engine is running at normal operating
temperature?  0W40 or 10W30?

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Nick - 20 Oct 2005 18:34 GMT
>> the new fad is 0w 40.... but in an old car, it can start to leak because
>> it
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> Which oil is thinner when the engine is running at normal operating
> temperature?  0W40 or 10W30?

10W-30  - the first figure is the viscosity when cold and the second when
hot

I think.....

IMHO
YMMV
AFAIR  etc etc

Nick
Pete - 20 Oct 2005 18:50 GMT
>> Pop quiz:
>> Which oil is thinner when the engine is running at normal operating
>> temperature?  0W40 or 10W30?
>
> 10W-30  - the first figure is the viscosity when cold and the second when
> hot

Exactly.  That's why saying that 0w-40 is too thin and will start to leak
doesn't make sense to me.  Oil is at its thinnest when at operating temp
(say 100 C), and at that temp, a 0w-40 will be just as thin as a 10w-40 or
15w-40 or a straight 40.  And as the temp drops, it only gets thicker from
there, not thinner.  A 0w-40 will not thicken as much as a 10w-40 when the
temps drop.

As to the OP, I'd suggest you use the oil that meets the specs described in
the owner's manual.

Cheers,

Pete
Malt_Hound - 21 Oct 2005 01:32 GMT
>>>Pop quiz:
>>>Which oil is thinner when the engine is running at normal operating
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> there, not thinner.  A 0w-40 will not thicken as much as a 10w-40 when the
> temps drop.

You are both quite correct.  Just because the first number is low
doesn't mean the oil is "thinner".

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spare-me-spam - 22 Oct 2005 18:55 GMT
Uh, if the 0w40 is M1, and it has over 5-7 thousand miles on it, it may
be a toss up - but yep, the 10w30 is supposed to be "thinner"

| > the new fad is 0w 40.... but in an old car, it can start to leak because it
| > is so thin, not always the best unless all your gaskets are new.
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| Which oil is thinner when the engine is running at normal operating
| temperature?  0W40 or 10W30?
spare-me-spam - 22 Oct 2005 18:55 GMT
No it is just as thick as 10-40, 15-40, or any other 40 .
It is just lower viscosity at LOW temps - which only last until it warms
up.

If cold 10W-xx isn't leaking, 0W-xx won't be leaking either.

| the new fad is 0w 40.... but in an old car, it can start to leak because it
| is so thin, not always the best unless all your gaskets are new.
| stick with what the manual suggests and you'll be fine
John Carrier - 21 Oct 2005 22:49 GMT
Assuming the engine is not leaking oil and not burning it at an excessive
rate, A good synthetic (Mobil 1, etc) in the recommended (in your owner's
manual) viscosity.

You can also go overkill and use Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, etc.  Great
lubricants but very pricey and probably not worth the investment except in a
new car where you intend to go with extended change intervals.

R / John

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