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Car Forum / BMW Cars / November 2005Anybody Watch Top Gear Sunday Night? V8 Vantage Aston Martin, BMW M6 and Porsche 911 Carrera S
http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/ The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails >http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/ > >The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails. So don't tease for those of us who are still waiting for download to finish. What's the debacle of which you speak all about? > >http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/ > > > >The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails. > > So don't tease for those of us who are still waiting for download to > finish. What's the debacle of which you speak all about? Presumably he's referring to the fact that there are so many settings for the engine, transmission, and traction control, that getting the best 0-60 figure involves a fair bit of button pushing before the car has even turned a wheel. It certainly did appear to be an overly complicated management system. Frinstance, the engine can deliver 501 hp, but the engine has to be programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp. Mike. >> >http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/ >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp. >Mike. Why can't they have some engine management presets, nothing complex, just economy/fast/track. Having to fiddle with the traction control, shocks and then battle with the iDrive to tell the engine to give full welly is insane! Dodgy.  SignatureMUSHROOMS ARE THE OPIATE OF THE MOOSES It's not complicated, but it can be time consuming and shouldn't be done while driving. It took the show's driver ~3 minutes to set all of the performace settings. The M5 has a dashboard "M" button that appears to do the same thing. >> >http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/ >> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp. > Mike. > It's not complicated, but it can be time consuming and shouldn't be done > while driving. It took the show's driver ~3 minutes to set all of the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp. >> Mike. Forget Top Gear anyway, they're not that good! Watch 5th gear this week and see either Tiff, VBH or Jason take the M6 round the track, then you'll get a "proper" review. Aston was nice though ;-) But they voted 2:1 for the Porsche. Remind me, when is 5th Gear I am out of town again (but still in Britain for a change). DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > Watch 5th gear this week and see either Tiff, VBH or Jason take the M6 > round the track, then you'll get a "proper" review. > > Aston was nice though ;-) All these journo's are like a dog with a bone over the i-drive system. Too complicated for their tiny minds, and they can't be arsed to read the manual so they've already decided it's crap. So why are most other manufacturers starting to over some very (very, very, very) similar set-ups on their new models? BMW ahead of their time again? There are so many options it might take a bit of time to get the interface just right, but it's definitely the way forward. As for the 0-60 thing, the M button has to be programmed once (i.e. when you buy the thing), and then, just like on the M5, pressing the M button gives you the full potential of the car. I like Top Gear, but like all motoring reviewers, they can be just too lazy at times. They couldn't even get the BHP correct for pity's sake!(It's 507bhp). Don't know why I typed "over" instead of "offer", but there you go! > All these journo's are like a dog with a bone over the i-drive system. Too > complicated for their tiny minds, and they can't be arsed to read the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > lazy at times. They couldn't even get the BHP correct for pity's > sake!(It's 507bhp). > It's not complicated, but it can be time consuming and shouldn't be done > while driving. It took the show's driver ~3 minutes to set all of the > performace settings. And at the end of the day who is going to use all the variations available on a regular basis. Chances are that once the novelty wears off, most owners won't bother. Mine has just 3 settings for the auto box. Snow, sport, and economy. Most of my driving is done using the economy mode. I rarely use sport, and have never used the snow setting. Mike. > Mine has just 3 settings for the auto box. Snow, sport, and economy. > Most of my driving is done using the economy mode. I rarely use sport, > and have never used the snow setting. On my E34, the winter mode totally inhibited auto gearchanges. I used to use it quite frequently in stop start slow traffic to lock the car in second gear. Signature*Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >>Mine has just 3 settings for the auto box. Snow, sport, and economy. >>Most of my driving is done using the economy mode. I rarely use sport, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > use it quite frequently in stop start slow traffic to lock the car in > second gear. 3rd gear actually, if I'm not mistaken. Signature-Fred W > > On my E34, the winter mode totally inhibited auto gearchanges. I used > > to use it quite frequently in stop start slow traffic to lock the car > > in second gear. > 3rd gear actually, if I'm not mistaken. Only if left in auto. Signature*On the seventh day He brewed beer * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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