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Car Forum / BMW Cars / December 2005

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Does the sales guy think I'm stupid?

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Bob - 16 Dec 2005 03:04 GMT
I test drove a 2006 330i (sport package, premium package) last weekend
and of course loved it.  The sales guy "informed" me that BMW restricts
engine output during the break in period and that once the odometer hit
790 miles, the full 255 horses would be available.  He said the
excellent performance I experienced during the test drive was at only
approximately 215 HP.  Now this is total BS, right?
xblazinlv - 16 Dec 2005 03:11 GMT
LOL.... I doubt that is true but it doesn't surprise me he said that.
When I bought my Toyota Tundra I had some jerk in the Financing office
tell me that I had to get my oil changes done at Toyota because they
used a new specially pressurized oil system on my truck and if I took
it to a regular lube n tune I would mess up the motor. I laughed in his
face and told him he was an idiot.

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Floyd Rogers - 16 Dec 2005 07:08 GMT
>I test drove a 2006 330i (sport package, premium package) last weekend
> and of course loved it.  The sales guy "informed" me that BMW restricts
> engine output during the break in period and that once the odometer hit
> 790 miles, the full 255 horses would be available.  He said the
> excellent performance I experienced during the test drive was at only
> approximately 215 HP.  Now this is total BS, right?

Contrary to the other guy's posting, it's certainly not beyond the realm
of possibility/probability.  IIRC, recent M cars have had a rev-limiter
built
into their engine program for breakin.  I haven't heard it of E90s, why
don't you check the online manuals?

FloydR
xblazinlv - 16 Dec 2005 08:39 GMT
I agree with Floyd however, you should check the online manuals or do a
search to see if it is true. Although I've never heard of this
personally.

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Class-1 - 16 Dec 2005 09:30 GMT
Unlikely, though technically feasible of course (perhaps even a good
idea).
However, BMW would open themselves to massive litigation if limiting
engine output in a critical situation was found to be the cause of an
accident/death - even more so if this were not clearly stated on in the
owner's manual.
AGH! - 16 Dec 2005 10:08 GMT
Nothing in the owners manual about this, but it is perfectly reasonable
to say power output will be lower during the first few hundred miles
simply because the engine is new, very "tight" and needs a bit of wear
to loosen up.  There is a runnig in period of 1250 miles / 2000km where
you should not exceed 90mph(!) and a certain engine speed (3500rpm for
a diesel, probably 4000rpm for gas)
My car, an E91 320d (Euro Diesel) performance was flat, uneven,
uninspiring, until about 700-900 miles had gone by where it rapidly
improved and is still improving every day now after 1500 miles.
Dave Plowman (News) - 16 Dec 2005 13:51 GMT
> However, BMW would open themselves to massive litigation if limiting
> engine output in a critical situation was found to be the cause of an
> accident/death - even more so if this were not clearly stated on in the
> owner's manual.

Would the same apply to suppling the same model with a less powerful
engine?

Seems to be true you guys live in a litigious society...

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Kyle and Lori Greene - 16 Dec 2005 13:24 GMT
>I test drove a 2006 330i (sport package, premium package) last weekend
> and of course loved it.  The sales guy "informed" me that BMW restricts
> engine output during the break in period and that once the odometer hit
> 790 miles, the full 255 horses would be available.  He said the
> excellent performance I experienced during the test drive was at only
> approximately 215 HP.  Now this is total BS, right?

As a direct quote it's total BS.  However, if you restrict engine speed to
the recommended 4500 RPM you could be at about 215 HP at that point.  There
is nothing in the car that will automatically limit you from going all the
way to redline and getting the full 255 HP.

Kyle.
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John Carrier - 16 Dec 2005 21:42 GMT
Absolute nonsense, but a great urban legend.  I found that when I purchased
my car, I knew much more about it than any of the sales staff.

OTOH, you should limit RPM to 4-4500 for the first 1200 miles or so and that
would achieve the same end as reduced power.  That's the one problem with a
lot car, some yahoo climbing in and taking it to redline while the oil's
still stone cold.  A good way to take a serious chunk out of the service
life of the engine.

R / John

>I test drove a 2006 330i (sport package, premium package) last weekend
> and of course loved it.  The sales guy "informed" me that BMW restricts
> engine output during the break in period and that once the odometer hit
> 790 miles, the full 255 horses would be available.  He said the
> excellent performance I experienced during the test drive was at only
> approximately 215 HP.  Now this is total BS, right?
Jeff Strickland - 17 Dec 2005 02:15 GMT
I have no idea if it's true or not, but can see no reason that it would not
be true. It would be easy to program the computer to not produce full output
until the odometer hit a certain number. Why on earth would you argue that
particular point?

>I test drove a 2006 330i (sport package, premium package) last weekend
> and of course loved it.  The sales guy "informed" me that BMW restricts
> engine output during the break in period and that once the odometer hit
> 790 miles, the full 255 horses would be available.  He said the
> excellent performance I experienced during the test drive was at only
> approximately 215 HP.  Now this is total BS, right?
Henry - 17 Dec 2005 14:15 GMT
>I test drove a 2006 330i (sport package, premium package) last weekend
> and of course loved it.  The sales guy "informed" me that BMW restricts
> engine output during the break in period and that once the odometer hit
> 790 miles, the full 255 horses would be available.  He said the
> excellent performance I experienced during the test drive was at only
> approximately 215 HP.  Now this is total BS, right?

its all true my 330i premium was electronically restricted for that
mileage....

sold it soon after due to an offer on an Audi RS8 I could not
refuse........£55k a far better machine in build quality and
performance........0-100 in 5.6seconds
dizzy - 17 Dec 2005 16:16 GMT
>I test drove a 2006 330i (sport package, premium package) last weekend
>and of course loved it.  The sales guy "informed" me that BMW restricts
>engine output during the break in period and that once the odometer hit
>790 miles, the full 255 horses would be available.  He said the
>excellent performance I experienced during the test drive was at only
>approximately 215 HP.  Now this is total BS, right?

Hmm...  That would explain why the E90 330i I took for a test drive
was so unimpressive in the motor department...
 
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