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Car Forum / BMW Cars / December 2005

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Pirelli Tires

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Tucker - 30 Dec 2005 06:18 GMT
My 2003 5 Series came with Pirelli tires.  On a recent trip from LA to
Phoenix, the tread on the rear passenger tire separated forcing me to change
the tire.  These tires had 27,000 miles.

Camelback BMW in Phoenix told me that the 5 series "eats" tires and only
gets about 25,000 miles.  They sold me four new Continientals.

Has anyone else had this experience?
Dori A Schmetterling - 30 Dec 2005 11:01 GMT
I have Pirelli P6000s on my car, though not a BMW and still only at 23 000
miles.  No sign of anything abnormal and a good amount of tread left.  At
your mileage I would just have expected less/insufficient tread, but not a
disintegration.

You were driving normally, presumably?

If so, a little note to the tyre manufacturer might be in order.

DAS

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> My 2003 5 Series came with Pirelli tires.  On a recent trip from LA to
> Phoenix, the tread on the rear passenger tire separated forcing me to
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> Has anyone else had this experience?
Eisboch - 30 Dec 2005 11:23 GMT
> My 2003 5 Series came with Pirelli tires.  On a recent trip from LA to
> Phoenix, the tread on the rear passenger tire separated forcing me to
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> Has anyone else had this experience?

Don't know what Pirelli tires you had, but many of the low profile, "high
performance" tires are built to be softer and "gooey" for high performance
handling.  The downside is that these type of tires wear much faster.  I
have a friend who bought a Porsche Cayenne with performance type tires.  He
had to replace them in less than a year.

Eisboch
R. Mark Clayton - 30 Dec 2005 12:26 GMT
> My 2003 5 Series came with Pirelli tires.  On a recent trip from LA to
> Phoenix, the tread on the rear passenger tire separated forcing me to
> change the tire.  These tires had 27,000 miles.

Depends on the model, but this is about average for rears.

> Camelback BMW in Phoenix told me that the 5 series "eats" tires and only
> gets about 25,000 miles.  They sold me four new Continientals.

The "rain" tyre.  Good choice for Manchester UK where I live (>200 rainy
days per year), but not so sure for arid Arizona...

> Has anyone else had this experience?
Dori A Schmetterling - 30 Dec 2005 12:51 GMT
What?  Tread separating??

DAS

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Huw - 30 Dec 2005 20:36 GMT
> What?  Tread separating??

If they were worn near to the carcass and/or driven at speed with
dangerously low pressure, then perhaps.

Huw
Dori A Schmetterling - 31 Dec 2005 20:43 GMT
Indeed,  but not "average".

Happy New Year.
DAS
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> If they were worn near to the carcass and/or driven at speed with
> dangerously low pressure, then perhaps.
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> Huw
Pete - 30 Dec 2005 20:15 GMT
> My 2003 5 Series came with Pirelli tires.  On a recent trip from LA to
> Phoenix, the tread on the rear passenger tire separated forcing me to
> change the tire.  These tires had 27,000 miles.
>
> Camelback BMW in Phoenix told me that the 5 series "eats" tires and only
> gets about 25,000 miles.  They sold me four new Continientals.

"Eating tires" as in wearing them out quickly and tread separation are two
different things.  Getting 27K miles out of a set of performance tires is
actually pretty good.  But tread separation should not be occuring at any
mileage.  Did the tire get damaged by road debris?  Was it running with
insufficient air pressure?

Pete
John Carrier - 30 Dec 2005 22:39 GMT
>> My 2003 5 Series came with Pirelli tires.  On a recent trip from LA to
>> Phoenix, the tread on the rear passenger tire separated forcing me to
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> mileage.  Did the tire get damaged by road debris?  Was it running with
> insufficient air pressure?

Difficult to say why you had tread separation, but inflation pressure,
excessive wear, or a road hazard could have done the deed.

My '03 530i SP came with Michelin Pilot Primacy, an all-season high
performance touring tire.  They would not have been my choice, but they
offer good (not great) grip, are predictable, decent in the rain and have
over 37,000 miles on them.  The mileage, particularly over our local lousy
roads, amazes me.  So, it hasn't been "eating" tires, but then its not the
V-8 (heavier, more nose heavy, more torque to the rear tires, etc).

Next set will probably be Goodyear F-1's if tire rack keeps their great
price on the Y-rated tires in my size.

R / John

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