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Car Forum / BMW Cars / January 200691 318i clutch chatter when hot
Bought a '91 318i with 5-speed in '94. Had 45k mi. At about 55k miles, I got stuck in bad stop-and-go traffic for for the first time, stuck long enough for things to get hot. When starting up from a dead stop was tough; as I let the clutch pedal off, the car would shake strongly as if the clutch plate was warped or something. Engine temp was normal or slightly above. Shaking was not as bad if I kept the revs high when starting from a stop. The symptom went away when I got moving at a steady speed again. Took it to the dealer. They said it was the clutch, so at 60k I got a new clutch. I thought, OK, problem solved. But some months later, got stuck in bad traffic, and the problem was still there. The car now has 160k on it. All is well except when I get stuck in traffic. Sound familiar to anyone? Ron the clutches in the 316 and 318's (especially early ones) were known to warp or crack then judder when pulling away (think it was something to do with the clutch material composition). The condition is due to how the car's been driven, so say the previous owner used to ride the clutch a lot, then it's quite concievable that when you got it, the clutch was already well on it's way to wobbliness. You say you had the clutch changed at 60k? To be honest, 100k miles out of a clutch isn't bad going. How many months are we talking about since you had it changed did teh vibrations start again? If it was only within a few hundred miles you should have taken it back to BMW? The bottom line is it's the clutch again. Only recently had the clutch changed in my wife's 316 Compact for this same reason (her car was on about 73k miles when we had it changed). I think the OEM clutch is made by SACHS, you might try getting it replaced with another make. > Bought a '91 318i with 5-speed in '94. Had 45k mi. At about 55k miles, I > got stuck in bad stop-and-go traffic for for the first time, stuck long [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ron I have had this occur on my '95 325i with 115k miles on the original clutch. I have heard that this is a common complaint of BMW clutches from these cars. It only seems to happen in high ambient temperature and in stop and go traffic where the clutch is being used often. My solution is to try not to stop and go. Instead I try to keep crawling along in gear (with very little if any throttle) rather than stopping and starting all the time. It pisses off all the automatic transmission drivers who think it a sin to allow any amount of space to develop between cars, as if that will cause them to get where they are going slower... In summary, I live with it in mine.  Signature-Fred W Fred W wrote: > I have had this occur on my '95 325i with 115k miles on the original > clutch. I have heard that this is a common complaint of BMW clutches [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > In summary, I live with it in mine. Ah-ha - you are the one! While *one *driver leaving "too much room ahead of him" doesn't make much difference, the capacity of a freeway would be greatly reduced if we all did it. Reduced capacity means more cars don't get on in the first place, so yes, we all get home later. I respect your logic, but please don't think your action do not impact the rest of us. > Fred W wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > respect your logic, but please don't think your action do not impact the > rest of us. I really hope that you are kidding. Think of it this way... on average the space in front of me is the same as the guy that is accelerating and braking like crazy. The people behind me can drive (at a steady pace) leaving as little room as they wish because I'm not constantly jamming on my brakes. Besides, the problem is not a capacity issue. It's a throughput issue, and the faster you get people moving at a steady pace the larger the throughput. Signature-Fred W gotta agree with Fred here... > I really hope that you are kidding. Think of it this way... on average > the space in front of me is the same as the guy that is accelerating and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and the faster you get people moving at a steady pace the larger the > throughput. Aye, it's true you know - throughput is increased by steady traffic loading, rather than the usual start/stop waves. I drive a Steptronic, but I use the same approach. It's kinder on the fuel consumption, brakes, and my right foot. When driving manuals, same thing, plus the evident additional gains in left-foot comfort. Thing is, if you do this, yes some morons will jump in front but fair enough. The cars behind usually fall into the same approach, i.e., whereas everyone in front is doing the endless stop-start kangaroo dance, the cars following all just roll along smoothly. |
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