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E39 bore wear problem.

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turtill@hotmail.com - 27 Jan 2006 21:00 GMT
I was looking through What Car  price guide today and I noticed it
warned of serious bore wear problems in late 1990 cars. Surely this
problem was with early 1990 cars. Is this a mistake?
pete
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John Burns - 27 Jan 2006 22:02 GMT
> I was looking through What Car  price guide today and I noticed it
> warned of serious bore wear problems in late 1990 cars. Surely this
> problem was with early 1990 cars. Is this a mistake?

I'd have said 95-98 M52 six cylinder cars and the 93-95 V8s.

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turtill@hotmail.com - 28 Jan 2006 02:34 GMT
>> I was looking through What Car  price guide today and I noticed it
>> warned of serious bore wear problems in late 1990 cars. Surely this
>> problem was with early 1990 cars. Is this a mistake?
>
>I'd have said 95-98 M52 six cylinder cars and the 93-95 V8s.

Well that is what I understood too as far as the V8 was concerned. I
did not know about the M52 problem lasting that late though.
pete

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John Burns - 28 Jan 2006 11:38 GMT
> Well that is what I understood too as far as the V8 was concerned. I
> did not know about the M52 problem lasting that late though.

M52 was problematical until it became the dual-VANOS M52TU in March 98.

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turtill@hotmail.com - 28 Jan 2006 20:11 GMT
>> Well that is what I understood too as far as the V8 was concerned. I
>> did not know about the M52 problem lasting that late though.
>
>M52 was problematical until it became the dual-VANOS M52TU in March 98.

Thanks John.
pete
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admin - 30 Jan 2006 18:42 GMT
>>> I was looking through What Car  price guide today and I noticed it
>>> warned of serious bore wear problems in late 1990 cars. Surely this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> did not know about the M52 problem lasting that late though.
> pete

Really depends on where you are located. There is NO problem with the
M5x series engines in the US.. until they got it sorted out - the M5x
engines still came with a cast iron block, and then with steel inserts
in the aluminum blocks.

Apparently the Euro cars weren't as lucky.
Dave Plowman (News) - 30 Jan 2006 22:34 GMT
> Really depends on where you are located. There is NO problem with the
> M5x series engines in the US.. until they got it sorted out - the M5x
> engines still came with a cast iron block, and then with steel inserts
> in the aluminum blocks.

No 'problems' except that the E39 was designed for an aluminium block
engine and the cast iron one didn't handle as well.

> Apparently the Euro cars weren't as lucky.

Euro cars run on Euro fuel - ie that from the Euro suppliers didn't
suffer. Those run on fuel refined abroad and imported and sold at 'cheap'
outlets may have done.

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Dave Plowman (News) - 27 Jan 2006 23:44 GMT
> I was looking through What Car  price guide today and I noticed it
> warned of serious bore wear problems in late 1990 cars. Surely this
> problem was with early 1990 cars. Is this a mistake?

I'd guess they're meaning the Nikasil problem. Do a search on this for
chapter and verse - but in the UK I'd ignore it. The fuel responsible
hasn't been around for many a year, and any damage caused by it would have
shown up long ago.

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turtill@hotmail.com - 28 Jan 2006 02:42 GMT
>> I was looking through What Car  price guide today and I noticed it
>> warned of serious bore wear problems in late 1990 cars. Surely this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>hasn't been around for many a year, and any damage caused by it would have
>shown up long ago.

Yes I knew about the Nikasil problem and I thought that was all
cleared up before the '96 models. The What Car mag says "Late '90s
cars plagued by engine wear problems......" It doesn't say this in
last year issue and I thought they must be referring to the Nikasil
problem. My car is ok but I am now looking for a 540 Tourer so I want
to be certain of what problems lay ahead of me. It seems none that I
didn't know of previous to reading the magazine;-)
pete

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