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Car Forum / BMW Cars / February 2006

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Front Control Arm Repair

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Psycho - 05 Feb 2006 03:31 GMT
 I am going to have to replace the front control arms (lower in case
anyone asks) on my son's 87 325i and am wondering it I can press out
the old ball joints and press in new ones. I see the entire arms for
sale but I also see "kits" that just have the ball joints and new
control arm bushings. Will probably go to a bushing that's adjustable
for camber but I'm still looking into that. Opinions are accepted on
this... Mainly looking to see if anyone else has fixed these this way
or if they've just replaced the whole arm.
R. Mark Clayton - 05 Feb 2006 13:10 GMT
>  I am going to have to replace the front control arms (lower in case
> anyone asks) on my son's 87 325i and am wondering it I can press out
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> this... Mainly looking to see if anyone else has fixed these this way
> or if they've just replaced the whole arm.

Don't know the particular parts, but usually you need a press.
Psycho - 05 Feb 2006 22:12 GMT
 I have access to a press (my father in law builds classic cars and
those things ALWAYS seem to need a little persuasion) so that's not an
issue. I was actually more interested in opinions of whether or not it
was a worthwhile method of repair. The control arms in the car are in
good shape, the inner ball joints are toast though.

>>  I am going to have to replace the front control arms (lower in case
>> anyone asks) on my son's 87 325i and am wondering it I can press out
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>
>Don't know the particular parts, but usually you need a press.
Misterbeets - 05 Feb 2006 23:17 GMT
I just replaced the whole arm for $100 ea. If your inner BJs are bad,
your outers are not far behind.  New bushing mandatory and require a
special adhesive. Labor was $150 per side.
Add new tie rods and you're done with the front end.
Fred W - 06 Feb 2006 15:51 GMT
> I just replaced the whole arm for $100 ea. If your inner BJs are bad,
> your outers are not far behind.  New bushing mandatory and require a
> special adhesive. Labor was $150 per side.
> Add new tie rods and you're done with the front end.

The outer balljoints are the only ones that are replaceable.  But they
are also the ones that tend to wear out (with the weight of the car on
them).

Replacement arms can be found on eBay for $130 for the pair including
the required new bushings:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-BMW-E30-Control-Arm-Set-W-Bushings-318-325_W0
QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33583QQitemZ8035455073QQtcZphoto


For that price it doesn't make sense to try to press in new outer joints
since you will probably end up replacing the bushings too anyway.

I have bought BMW suspension parts from this vendor in the past and the
Hamburg Technic parts seem to be of better quality than the Meyle or
other aftermarket brands around, and substantially less expensive than
the OE Lempforder (sp?) parts.

There is no adhesive required for the bushings.  You only need something
to use as a lubricant that will dissipate and not damage the rubber of
the bush.  I use silicone spray which works fine.

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-Fred W

Psycho - 06 Feb 2006 18:17 GMT
  That's actually where I wound up ordering the parts from. They were
very helpful in meeting the requirements I had. I wound up paying a
little more as I wanted the M3 solid offset bushings and I'm having
them shipped 2nd day. Need the car back on the road...

>> I just replaced the whole arm for $100 ea. If your inner BJs are bad,
>> your outers are not far behind.  New bushing mandatory and require a
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>to use as a lubricant that will dissipate and not damage the rubber of
>the bush.  I use silicone spray which works fine.
Fred W - 06 Feb 2006 20:08 GMT
>    That's actually where I wound up ordering the parts from. They were
> very helpful in meeting the requirements I had. I wound up paying a
> little more as I wanted the M3 solid offset bushings and I'm having
> them shipped 2nd day. Need the car back on the road...

Good deal.  You won't regret it.  I actually have received my parts from
them in 2-3 days anyway because they are just down the road in Connecticut.

I have the M3 bushings on my E36 as well and I really like the feeling
the added castor gives to the steering.  It improved the straight line
stability and provides an increase in the "return to center" that I
like.  The only downside was a slight increase in the feeling of bumpsa
nd road vibration in the wheel, but many folks say they actually prefer
it that way too.

So now, the only trick for you (other than busting the balljoints out of
the  car) will be to get the new bushings pressed into the brackets (ans
the old ones out obviously).

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-Fred W

Psycho - 07 Feb 2006 00:00 GMT
 As I said before, I've access to a press so none of that concerns
me. I may take the control arms that are in the car now and press the
ball joints out, saving them for future use (my car). I feel all the
bumps in the road as it is, I have an 89 325i with the Bavarian
Autosport springs and Bilstien sport shocks and struts. Not a Cadillac
by any means.... Sure dirves nice though....

>>    That's actually where I wound up ordering the parts from. They were
>> very helpful in meeting the requirements I had. I wound up paying a
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>the  car) will be to get the new bushings pressed into the brackets (ans
>the old ones out obviously).
 
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