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Car Forum / BMW Cars / February 2006

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A silly problem with my 325is engine hood

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Bob Freeman - 11 Feb 2006 15:34 GMT
Does anyone know why my engine hood will no longer stay 'up' .. I know its
on some kind of piston affair ..have I lost hydraulic or something..I had
the car painted and thot maybe they had removed the hood to paint the car
but they said no... it may have been like that before I took it in for
paint, don't know...any suggestions?

Many t hanks in advance....
Dave Plowman (News) - 11 Feb 2006 17:57 GMT
> Does anyone know why my engine hood will no longer stay 'up' .. I know
> its on some kind of piston affair ..have I lost hydraulic or
> something..I had the car painted and thot maybe they had removed the
> hood to paint the car but they said no... it may have been like that
> before I took it in for paint, don't know...any suggestions?

Likely it has gas struts and these have failed - you first notice it in
cold weather. Usually easy to change, though.

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Freebase - 11 Feb 2006 22:25 GMT
Hi Dave, you were so helpful in explaining another problem I ad...could
you explain how you think the gas struts work and whether there is some
part of the hood 'suspension' I can look at to verify your theory?
Also, Jack's suggestion about the weight of the paint was one the body
folks raised as well.. if that's the case, will new struts have enough
'oomph'?
zerouali - 12 Feb 2006 00:36 GMT
The struts are very simple. It has a piston at one end and the strut has a
gas charge strong enough to hold the bonnet open, and also helps dampen the
force when closing. Over time the gas pressure decreases and the charge is
not strong enough to do its job. Don't think there is anything much to look
at, as long as the joints are free to move just replace the struts and
you'll be good as new. New struts will be more than capable.
Dave Plowman (News) - 12 Feb 2006 01:45 GMT
> Hi Dave, you were so helpful in explaining another problem I ad...could
> you explain how you think the gas struts work and whether there is some
> part of the hood 'suspension' I can look at to verify your theory?

They are basically a hydraulic version of a spring. But being hydraulic
easier to modify the 'law' of the amount of support effort. Even to
provide a constant effort throughout the travel which a simple spring
can't.

> Also, Jack's suggestion about the weight of the paint was one the body
> folks raised as well.. if that's the case, will new struts have enough
> 'oomph'?

Think he was having a laugh. ;-)

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Jack - 11 Feb 2006 19:05 GMT
I suppose they may have put so much new paint on your hood that the air
spring is no longer strong enough to hold it up.

> Does anyone know why my engine hood will no longer stay 'up' .. I know its
> on some kind of piston affair ..have I lost hydraulic or something..I had
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>
> Many t hanks in advance....
Niels Petersen - 12 Feb 2006 03:40 GMT
When your car was painted, it spent time in the oven.  My guess is that
this heat was too much for the gas struts.  Thety were probably old and
tired anyway.  It is a simple affair to change them out and, yes, the
new ones will have all the umph you need for years to come.

> Does anyone know why my engine hood will no longer stay 'up' .. I know its
> on some kind of piston affair ..have I lost hydraulic or something..I had
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>
>  
Jeff Strickland - 12 Feb 2006 19:35 GMT
The hood is held up by a gas-filled shock absorber, for lack of a better
word. You need to raise the hood and either re-attach the shock, or replace
it.

Take it off and take it to the store and find another one that is the same
size.

> Does anyone know why my engine hood will no longer stay 'up' .. I know its
> on some kind of piston affair ..have I lost hydraulic or something..I had
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Many t hanks in advance....
Dave Plowman (News) - 12 Feb 2006 23:48 GMT
> The hood is held up by a gas-filled shock absorber, for lack of a better
> word.

They're called gas filled struts. But not US gas. ;-)

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Jeff Strickland - 14 Feb 2006 01:57 GMT
>> The hood is held up by a gas-filled shock absorber, for lack of a better
>> word.
>
> They're called gas filled struts. But not US gas. ;-)

Strut is the word I was searching for. It does _look_ kinda like a shock
though, so he should be able to find it ...
 
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