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Car Forum / BMW Cars / February 2006

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Battery replacement 323si

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sid - 13 Feb 2006 03:45 GMT
Battery replacement.

I need to replace the battery in a BMW 323si. Every place that I
called; Sears, NTB, Pepboys do not have an exact replacement.

Do I need to find a battery the is designated for that car, or can I
just match the size and CCA?

Why is that battery so hard to match ?   One dealer suggested it was
the vent design.
Any one know what the battery from the dealer is going to cost ?

Any help is appreciated.
Dave Plowman (News) - 13 Feb 2006 09:55 GMT
> Why is that battery so hard to match ?   One dealer suggested it was
> the vent design.

Pretty well all the recent batteries I've seen have this vent design
although you may have to transfer the actual elbow from the old battery.

> Any one know what the battery from the dealer is going to cost ?

The battery in UK cars is made by Bosch so you could check Bosch/Varta
agents.
But I understood US cars had US made batteries.

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Fred W - 13 Feb 2006 12:46 GMT
> Battery replacement.
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> Any help is appreciated.

What year car?  You can look up the "group" number and get the specs for
that group.  Often there will be another group that will also work in
certain applications.  The only difference may be a small difference in
the dimensions (usually length) that is inconsequential.

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sid - 13 Feb 2006 13:18 GMT
Year is '99, the battery is in the trunk on the right. Looks like
original equipment.

Here are the numbers:
12v   75ah  340A  650CCA  BCI Group No. 92
and then some encoded number large and bold "61 21 8 353 651"

Looking from the top, I don't see a vent.  Any Idea what they are
talking about ?

The label did not have a date of any type.

Thanks

Sid.
Fred W - 13 Feb 2006 15:30 GMT
> Year is '99, the battery is in the trunk on the right. Looks like
> original equipment.
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>
> Sid.

OK, the info you gave is what you need to know.  The "61 21 8 353 651"
is the BMW part number.

BCI Group 92 is the key to size and terminal placement.  Here is a web
page that details all of the various groups:

http://www.batteryweb.com/bci.cfm

As you can see, this is a rather unique size and configuration battery.
 The closes t thing to it would be the group 91, which is more
available than the 92.

You could just get the BMW part but it will be more expensive.

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sid - 13 Feb 2006 15:54 GMT
This jogs my memory,

When I called NTB, the salesperson stated that this year and model
called for a 94R, but you pointed out this is a 92.

Can you tell me what the 'R' stands for ?

Sid.
Wan-ning Tan - 17 Feb 2006 05:04 GMT
'R' stands for reversed positive and negative posts.  Group 94R has the
same dimension as group 94, but with reversed post position.

We got an InterState for my niece's 99 323i.  But in my opinion, I would
switch back to BMW OE the next time.  InterState is slightly shorter and
lower.  One of the cables (don't remember if it's positive or negative
but it is the front one, closer to wheel) is stretched and it is not a
snug fit.  I have to add a thin wood piece so it won't move.

Remember to re-connect the vent tube.  You don't want the gas to stay
inside.

> This jogs my memory,
>
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>
> Sid.
Raybender - 13 Feb 2006 16:40 GMT
> Year is '99, the battery is in the trunk on the right. Looks like
> original equipment.
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>
> Sid.

Is there a Batteries Plus store in your area?  They carried the original
battery from Douglas, who has now sold out to someone.  I 'think',
however, the new company still makes the replacement batteries.

Frank
sid - 13 Feb 2006 19:14 GMT
Frank,

I called "Batteries Plus", they have two stores very close and they
carrie both groups 94 and 92.

Thanks for the info.

Sid.
Raybender - 14 Feb 2006 04:17 GMT
Glad I helped.

Frank

> Frank,
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> Sid.
sid - 15 Feb 2006 22:40 GMT
Final Solution:

Our mechanic gave us a deal on a batter, $135 installed.

Interstate  Group 91,  875 CCA

First 18 Months warranty replacement,  Next 85 Months prorated.
Fred W - 16 Feb 2006 12:29 GMT
> Final Solution:
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> First 18 Months warranty replacement,  Next 85 Months prorated.

That's not a bad deal all things considered...  but next time look for
an independant shop that sells Interstate batteries.  The warranty comes
from the manufacturer and the price would likely be a touch lower.

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Dave Plowman (News) - 17 Feb 2006 10:28 GMT
> First 18 Months warranty replacement,  Next 85 Months prorated.

That sounds amazing. 8 1/2 years warranty even if some pro rata
Best I've found in the UK is 4. Seems it's one of the things they can't -
or won't - improve the life of.

My replacement Bosch has now lasted longer than the original.

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