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Car Forum / BMW Cars / February 2006

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E30 Replacement Diff

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MarkS - 14 Feb 2006 13:36 GMT
The time has come to do something about the noise from the back end of
our 1990 320. I'm thinking about installing new wheel bearings and
swapping in a reconditioned/low milage diff. Mine has about 130,000
miles on it. The noise is a whiring/whining increasing in pitch with
road speed. It is a bit worse (almost grinding) when you accelerate
from low revs (lots of torque load i assume) and also a bit worse when
accelerating out of tight corners.

Does anyone know of a good source of reconditioned diffs in the UK? I
think it's a 1:4.10 that i need. Thanks.
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Mark
adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 14 Feb 2006 17:22 GMT
> The time has come to do something about the noise from the back end of
> our 1990 320. I'm thinking about installing new wheel bearings and
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> --
> Mark

Not sure I'd replace a diff on a whim and a recon will be £££
Lemuel Johnson - 14 Feb 2006 20:56 GMT
> The time has come to do something about the noise from the back end of
> our 1990 320. I'm thinking about installing new wheel bearings and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --
> Mark

I'd take a good look at wheel bearings, center bearing and driveshaft
before pulling a diff.

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MarkS - 14 Feb 2006 23:33 GMT
I think it is definitely in the back axel somewhere, as it is
considerably louder if I drive without the back seat base installed.
Don't think this would be the case if it were the centre bearing?
Psycho - 14 Feb 2006 22:18 GMT
I'd look at all those other bearings first and if I was sure it was
the diff I'd consider redoing the bearings in it. Don't know how
available a reconditioned unitmight be but I'm sure it would be
expensive. There's a place her in Orlando that will rebuild the one
you have provided it's not worn slap out.

>The time has come to do something about the noise from the back end of
>our 1990 320. I'm thinking about installing new wheel bearings and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Does anyone know of a good source of reconditioned diffs in the UK? I
>think it's a 1:4.10 that i need. Thanks.
MarkS - 15 Feb 2006 09:39 GMT
Hi, I think you're right, I'll certainly do the wheel bearings first.
Do you know what's involved in replacing the bearings in the diff? Are
they parts available through BMW dealers? I'll happily do it myself, I
hadn't really considered that it was possible until you mentioned it.
Thanks!
Dave Plowman (News) - 15 Feb 2006 10:53 GMT
> Hi, I think you're right, I'll certainly do the wheel bearings first.
> Do you know what's involved in replacing the bearings in the diff? Are
> they parts available through BMW dealers? I'll happily do it myself, I
> hadn't really considered that it was possible until you mentioned it.

IIRC, the proceeder for both is in the Haynes manual. But don't have one
to hand to check.

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MarkS - 15 Feb 2006 11:54 GMT
Thanks, I've got a Bentley and a Haynes so I'll check them after work.
Jack - 15 Feb 2006 17:56 GMT
I would suggest that you not start tearing things apart until you are sure
where the problem lies.  Differentials can become very noisy without
suffering catastrophic failure so you still have plenty of time to come up
with the correct diagnosis.  I drove my noisy '84 318i over 10,000 miles
before I replaced the failing differential at 300,000 miles.  If it is the
differential you should be able to change the noise with the gas pedal.
High throttle settings should produce more noise which I think you have
already stated.  It should also make a very different noise under engine
braking than it does under accelleration.  The noises should be most
noticeable as you start off from a dead stop and be kind of a waa waa waa at
very low speeds.  Differential noises also tend to disappear into the
background noise at higher speeds while wheel bearing noises tend to
resonate the springs and become a 'low tone' at higher speeds.  After you
have the car jacked up and the drive shaft and axles disconnected, it will
be very easy to turn the differential shafts by hand to see how rough it
feels/sounds.
I replaced mine with a $150 unit from a wrecking yard.  At the time a
rebuilt unit cost $1700 and a new one from BMW $3200.  It was still
performing perfectly 40,000 miles later when I hit some black ice on a
freeway overpass in Montana and totalled the car.  Rebuilding differentials
requires special tools and skills and is not covered in any of the popular
maintainance books so I wouldn't suggest that you attempt to do it yourself.
If you decide to get one at a wrecking yard be sure to replace the seals
before you install it.  That will take a couple of hours and cost you $40.
Be sure to measure how deep the axle seals are pressed into the housing
before removing them because there is no shoulder to control their depth and
it doesn't warn you about this in Bentley.

Good Luck
Jack

> Hi, I think you're right, I'll certainly do the wheel bearings first.
> Do you know what's involved in replacing the bearings in the diff? Are
> they parts available through BMW dealers? I'll happily do it myself, I
> hadn't really considered that it was possible until you mentioned it.
> Thanks!
 
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