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Car Forum / BMW Cars / February 2006

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is there a doctor in this group ?

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frischmoutt - 15 Feb 2006 20:44 GMT
To provide some good recommendations about the way to avoid contamination
from the Avian Influenza .
What shall do if there's bird poo on my car ?
Shall I risk to get the paint damaged, shall I remove it with gloves, a mask
and a sanitary suit or shall I sell the car ASAP ?  ;=))
Dori A Schmetterling - 15 Feb 2006 22:58 GMT
Don't eat it.

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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> To provide some good recommendations about the way to avoid contamination
> from the Avian Influenza .
> What shall do if there's bird poo on my car ?
[...]
Cam - 16 Feb 2006 02:30 GMT
call the poison control center. or 911.

or just go bird hunting.

or vote democrat.

better yet, vote communist. If you do, you won't need to anymore.
Fred W - 16 Feb 2006 12:24 GMT
> To provide some good recommendations about the way to avoid contamination
> from the Avian Influenza .
> What shall do if there's bird poo on my car ?
> Shall I risk to get the paint damaged, shall I remove it with gloves, a mask
> and a sanitary suit or shall I sell the car ASAP ?  ;=))

I'm not a doctor, but I play one with all my lady friends at home.

The main thing to keep in mind is you do not want to ingest it, so no
matter how tempting it may be, don't lick it off the car.  No need to
thank me ...all in a days work.

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frischmoutt - 16 Feb 2006 21:22 GMT
I ever thought that licking the car was much better than using a chamois
leather :~)))))))))))))
I have to change my mind !

> > To provide some good recommendations about the way to avoid contamination
> > from the Avian Influenza .
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> --
> -Fred W
Novan Hartadi - 17 Feb 2006 10:37 GMT
You are all very funny :) thanks for joking. I'm serious
Fred W - 17 Feb 2006 13:33 GMT
> You are all very funny :) thanks for joking. I'm serious

We are all joking because some things in life are not worth worrying
about.  Just wipe the crap off your car and get on with your life, if
you can find one...

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nhartadi - 17 Feb 2006 15:12 GMT
> > You are all very funny :) thanks for joking. I'm serious
>
> We are all joking because some things in life are not worth worrying
> about.  Just wipe the crap off your car and get on with your life, if
> you can find one...

I agree with you Fred. I just feel happy today that many people make me
laugh while reading this thread. And you have also made a joke in other
thread (a comment on a rare Z3 '89 :)

By the way, German television reported yesterday that kindergarten
students are told by their teacher to call fireman if they found a dead
bird. Is it a good idea to call fireman if you found a bird poo on your
BMW ? perhaps they'll clean your car for free :)
Psycho - 17 Feb 2006 15:22 GMT
Since I doubt your going to ingest the bird droppings, you're probably
safe. Wash it off with soap and water and then clean your hands again
to be safe.

Here in the US, we don't worry about avian flu as of yet. We have
brave people like Dick Cheney to go out and shoot people and call it
quail hunting. We tried to keep this a secret from the rest of the
world as it somehow fit into G. Bush's world dominiation scheme but
that particular part has been scrapped and declassified.

Just in case anyone thought that was serious, those two idiots aren't
capable of putting a plan like that together.

>> > You are all very funny :) thanks for joking. I'm serious
>>
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>bird. Is it a good idea to call fireman if you found a bird poo on your
>BMW ? perhaps they'll clean your car for free :)
Fred W - 17 Feb 2006 16:24 GMT
>>>You are all very funny :) thanks for joking. I'm serious
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> bird. Is it a good idea to call fireman if you found a bird poo on your
> BMW ? perhaps they'll clean your car for free :)

well, that would be nice, but (putting a serious hat on for just a
second...) a dead bird has a far better chance (though still not a large
one) of being infected by the disease than a live one.  Last time I
checked only live birds can sh.t on your car so your odds are on your side.

But let me know if the firemen wax it and clean the windows too...  ;-)

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Dave Plowman (News) - 17 Feb 2006 17:19 GMT
> well, that would be nice, but (putting a serious hat on for just a
> second...) a dead bird has a far better chance (though still not a large
> one) of being infected by the disease than a live one.  Last time I
> checked only live birds can sh.t on your car so your odds are on your
> side.

Viruses tend to be contagious long before they kill the host - or even
show any symptoms of the illness. That's why they're so successful.

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Fred W - 17 Feb 2006 17:33 GMT
>>well, that would be nice, but (putting a serious hat on for just a
>>second...) a dead bird has a far better chance (though still not a large
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> Viruses tend to be contagious long before they kill the host - or even
> show any symptoms of the illness. That's why they're so successful.

Agreed, but considering the total number of birds out there in the
world, the percentage of the dead ones that are infected has to be
higher than than the percentage of the live ones.

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frischmoutt - 17 Feb 2006 21:17 GMT
[...]
> well, that would be nice, but (putting a serious hat on for just a
> second...) a dead bird has a far better chance (though still not a large
> one) of being infected by the disease than a live one.  Last time I
> checked only live birds can sh.t on your car so your odds are on your
> side.

LOL
But, on second thoughts, I think you're not so right because the virus
wouldn't
kill the bird immediately. Long enough for it to poo on my car.
The question is "how long does it take for the contamination to kill the
bird ? "

This link http://influenza.h5n1.over-blog.com/categorie-253129.html provides
information and, for those who don't speak French, my translation follows :

"***********************************
"WASHINGTON - OMS says: The H5N1 virus can survive more than one month
"within the birds' droppings when the weather is cold. During summer days,
the
"duration is about one week.
"
"Droppings could be an aggravating factor for the virus propagation towards
"humans and birds, OMS considers.
"
"Moreover, H5N1 characteristics diverge from the usual influenza.
"
"The incubation period for H5N1 Avian influenza might be longer than the
"usual seasonal flu, which incubation period is between two and three days.
"Current data point out an incubation period extending from two to eight
days,
"possibly seventeen days" OMS says.
"***********************************

Some days ago, I was joking but now, I have to admit that I'll use latex
gloves (nothing to deal however with what you said :
"I'm not a doctor, but I play one with all my lady friends at home.") :-))

Yesterday I drove just below thousands of starlings. And of course, I got
several 'gifts'.
Today I noticed that cars look like guano carriers in the parking lot .
Would people be anxious ? I think so.
Have a look on this map
http://influenza.h5n1.over-blog.com/article-1863222.html
For the moment, the French Riviera is not mentioned but it's on the way.

That reminds me the Chernobyl disaster and the radioactive cloud which
didn't pass the Italien border !
That day I was in a company, in Marseilles, manufacturing radiation
detectors.
Products under development and test were ringing everywhere in the labs and
nobody was understanding what was happening.
Back to home, I got  a short piece of information on the radio, and just
realized.
Every next days I washed everything in the garden, the children were able
to touch !
Don't tell me I'm paranoid. I'm just provident !

> But let me know if the firemen wax it and clean the windows too...  ;-)

Good opportunity to test "Klasse all in one".
LOL
 
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