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Car Forum / BMW Cars / March 2006

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What's this thing? 92 e32 735

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Josh Assing - 28 Feb 2006 18:04 GMT
Right below the intake manifold, on the drivers (US - Left) side; there's a
vacuum line going to a canister in front of the power steering resevoir.

On this line is a small valve or switch; it's black in color; with an arrow on
it.

It doesn't appear to be a check valve, since it has an electrical connector with
two poles.   I cannot locate a wiring harness to plug into it.

Does anyone know what this is, or where (if at all) something should plug into
it?  I can send a small picture to someone if they are interested.

Thanks
-josh

Looking at realoem -- Item #1 here:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=GB43&mospid=47359&btnr=13_0189&hg=
13&fg=15


or

http://tinyurl.com/zmexq

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Clive - 01 Mar 2006 04:34 GMT
> Right below the intake manifold, on the drivers (US - Left) side; there's
> a
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> That thing is the charcoal filter for fuel tank ventilation
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Josh Assing - 02 Mar 2006 10:25 GMT
>> That thing is the charcoal filter for fuel tank ventilation
>    from clive   BMW master technician  south africa

Thanks Clive; but NOT the canister, the valve inline with the hoses, listed as
item #1  It appears to be a valve -- trying to determine if wires do connect to
it or not

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Fred W - 01 Mar 2006 13:24 GMT
> Right below the intake manifold, on the drivers (US - Left) side; there's a
> vacuum line going to a canister in front of the power steering resevoir.
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The ETK says it is the fuel tank breather valve.  I would be inclined to
believe it...

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Josh Assing - 02 Mar 2006 10:25 GMT
>The ETK says it is the fuel tank breather valve.  I would be inclined to
>believe it...

OK -- But is there an electrical connection to it?  The valve itself has a
connector; but no wires to it..

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Fred W - 02 Mar 2006 13:22 GMT
>>The ETK says it is the fuel tank breather valve.  I would be inclined to
>>believe it...
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Yes, it should have a connection to it.  It is a solenoid type of valve,
 The valve should have a resistance of ~45 +/- 20 ohms.  The valve
should be closed to airflow through it with no electrical input,  and
should open when power is applied.

If you have nothing connected to the valve then you have no fuel tank
gas recirculation for emissions.  It could also cause some strange
starting/running problems.  Are you troubleshooting something or just
happen to notice it.

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Josh Assing - 02 Mar 2006 13:50 GMT
>If you have nothing connected to the valve then you have no fuel tank
>gas recirculation for emissions.  It could also cause some strange
>starting/running problems.  Are you troubleshooting something or just
>happen to notice it.

Just happen to notice it.. I cannot find any connector for it; so it must have
come loose and either the wires broke off or it got tucked up somewhere tight..

Any clues on where to look for hte harness for it?

Thanks
-josh

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Fred W - 02 Mar 2006 17:45 GMT
>>If you have nothing connected to the valve then you have no fuel tank
>>gas recirculation for emissions.  It could also cause some strange
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No sorry, I don't have one of those models.  But it would have to be
within reach of the connection.

Maybe someone with an E32 could check on theirs...

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Clive - 02 Mar 2006 18:15 GMT
>>>If you have nothing connected to the valve then you have no fuel tank gas
>>>recirculation for emissions.  It could also cause some strange
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> The engine control unit uses that valve to open and close the
   tank venting system on the vehicle.
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Fred W - 03 Mar 2006 12:24 GMT
> The engine control unit uses that valve to open and close the
> tank venting system on the vehicle.

Obviously.  The question that remained unanswered was, where in the
wiring harness does the wiring/connector for the breather valve branch
out from, so the OP can look for it.

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SteveG - 03 Mar 2006 20:11 GMT
> Right below the intake manifold, on the drivers (US - Left) side; there's a
> vacuum line going to a canister in front of the power steering resevoir.
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Josh,

Just been out to have a look at mine. The wiring harness is very thin
and goes from the solenoid valve, in behind the inlet manifold and joins
the some other cables just behind the starter solenoid. You might try
looking behind the manifold it could easily be hidden in there.

It's a bit dark here at the moment - something to do with it being 8pm -
so I'll have to wait until tomorrow morning to get some photos for you.
I'll post back here with a URL you can use to view them, okay?

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Josh Assing - 03 Mar 2006 23:49 GMT
>Just been out to have a look at mine. The wiring harness is very thin
>and goes from the solenoid valve, in behind the inlet manifold and joins
>the some other cables just behind the starter solenoid. You might try
>looking behind the manifold it could easily be hidden in there.

Thank you Steve!  I'll go have a look.  I'm worried it may be broken & lost.

>so I'll have to wait until tomorrow morning to get some photos for you.
>I'll post back here with a URL you can use to view them, okay?

That'd be Great!   Thanks!

-josh

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Josh Assing - 04 Mar 2006 00:09 GMT
Thanks Steve!!!

I reached under and traced all the wires steaming from behind the starter
solinoid...

Sure enough; there was one that went "no where". Somehow; it ended up way up
behind the intake manifold; up near the injectors....

I suspect we snaked the wire up there when I replaced the head gasket (d'oh!)
and lost track of it...

W/o the "where it came from" I'd never have found it....

Thanks much steve.

Cheers!
-josh

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SteveG - 04 Mar 2006 12:43 GMT
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Josh,

Glad we managed to sort that one out. I won't bother with the photos now
then :-)

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Josh Assing - 04 Mar 2006 15:06 GMT
>Glad we managed to sort that one out. I won't bother with the photos now
>then :-)

No need! But thank you for the offer... the 1st go at finding it was like
"There's nothing there!  when will those photo's be ready?"

Frustration set it and I went out there determined to find it.... I didn' tknow
my arm bent that way; but it did & I found it.

Really; I'd NEVER have found it w/o your help. Thanks.
-josh

btw: My idle is now smoother, or at least I think it is.

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SteveG - 04 Mar 2006 19:01 GMT
>> Glad we managed to sort that one out. I won't bother with the photos now
>> then :-)
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The idle on mine is like a roller coaster for about 2 mins on a really
cold morning but I've learned to live with it. I'll revisit the problem
if it still persists later in the year when the mornings are warmer.

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Josh Assing - 04 Mar 2006 20:08 GMT
>The idle on mine is like a roller coaster for about 2 mins on a really
>cold morning but I've learned to live with it. I'll revisit the problem
>if it still persists later in the year when the mornings are warmer.

Mine does that too; but only like a gentle up/down.

w/o the connector it never "smoothed out" now it does again.

I'm thinking it might be worn out fuel injectors -- because on another car
that's what it was.. I already have some ford 5.0 injectors -- just need to find
the time.

-josh

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