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2006 530i, buying experience

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daddy - 11 Mar 2006 14:37 GMT
Wife and I are considering buying a new 530i.
We've scanned both KBB & Edmunds, and it appears
purchase price points are generally $1K - $1.5K below MSRP.
Is that typical with BMW?  My previous experience with
buying US domestic vehicles put us generally at dealer invoice
or below.

Understood, that consumer demand drives pricing.  And if demand
is high for the 530i, expect to pay.  I'm just wanting to calibrate
my expectations among those who have recently purchased.

thx.
-Gregg
bmoag - 11 Mar 2006 20:28 GMT
What makes the several thousand dollar difference for 40 more horsepower
worth paying for the 530 rather than the 525?
bfd - 11 Mar 2006 20:36 GMT
> What makes the several thousand dollar difference for 40 more horsepower
> worth paying for the 530 rather than the 525?

In addition to the 40 horses, you're also talking about 35 lb-ft of torque.
Neither seem like alot, but at about 3500 lbs, these are relatively heavy
cars to be pushing around.. I say, drive the 2 cars, and if you don't notice
a difference, get the cheaper one....
Mark Dvorkin - 12 Mar 2006 04:23 GMT
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I drove both and the difference is impossible to overlook
bfd - 12 Mar 2006 05:31 GMT
 bfd wrote:

 
What makes the several thousand dollar difference for 40 more horsepower
worth paying for the 530 rather than the 525?

   
In addition to the 40 horses, you're also talking about 35 lb-ft of torque.
Neither seem like alot, but at about 3500 lbs, these are relatively heavy
cars to be pushing around.. I say, drive the 2 cars, and if you don't notice
a difference, get the cheaper one....

 
 I drove both and the difference is impossible to overlook

 Then you know which car to buy!
daddy - 12 Mar 2006 06:33 GMT
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little more horsey seems the way to go....  :-)
daddy - 12 Mar 2006 06:29 GMT
>> What makes the several thousand dollar difference for 40 more horsepower
>> worth paying for the 530 rather than the 525?
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> cars to be pushing around.. I say, drive the 2 cars, and if you don't notice
> a difference, get the cheaper one....

appreciate the feedback.

how did the purchase experience go?
daddy - 12 Mar 2006 06:26 GMT
> What makes the several thousand dollar difference for 40 more horsepower
> worth paying for the 530 rather than the 525?

certainly something to consider.  I'll try driving both.
would like the extra horsepower nonetheless.

just curious to hear about your buying experience.

kind regards,
-g
daddy - 18 Mar 2006 03:58 GMT
> Wife and I are considering buying a new 530i.
> We've scanned both KBB & Edmunds, and it appears
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> thx.
> -Gregg

I was hoping to hear some buying experiences.  Are the dealers
moving "south" with regards to the sticker?  I live in AZ, and
would be curious to hear about purchases from the "3" Phx area
BMW dealerships.

TIA
-G
John Carrier - 18 Mar 2006 04:22 GMT
>> Wife and I are considering buying a new 530i.
>> We've scanned both KBB & Edmunds, and it appears
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> would be curious to hear about purchases from the "3" Phx area
> BMW dealerships.

BMW doesn't have a holdback (typically around 2.5% of MSRP or base price)
going back to the dealer.  Some dealerships also have to pay a fee for group
advertising.  Except for incentives offered on last of model run cars
(possibly E46 coupes and convertibles?) there are no hidden profits for the
dealer.  You should be able to find a car for about $2000-2500 over invoice
in a major market assuming the market isn't hot.  OTOH, I recall seeing an
early E39 M5 for $25K over MSRP.

R / John
Niels Petersen - 18 Mar 2006 05:22 GMT
If you want to save money on a brand new BMW, you should check into
their European Delivery (ED) program.  Briefly, each BMW Center is
allocated so many cars to sell each year.  They need to make so much
profit per allocated car to pay their bills etc etc.  Fair enough.  
However, ED cars are "above and beyond" their regular allocation, so
some dealers view this as pure gravy.  ED cars in California typically
sells for about $1,000 over ED invoice.  Now, the ED invoice is about 7%
below the normal U.S. invoice.  The catch for ED is that, well, you have
to go to Munich to pick up your car.  Some folks make a one day trip to
Munich, pick up their car and turn it in to the shipping agent there who
makes arrangements to ship it back to your local dealer.  The shipping
and insurance is included in the purchase price.

For a base 2006 530i the prices work out as flws:
USA MSRP: $46,800
USA Invoice: $42,770
ED Invoice:  $ 39,610 to which you should add the $1K profit for the
dealer, i.e. 40,610

(add destination ($695) and options to all of the above numbers)

Still, that is a $6K savings between ED and USA MSRP.  This would buy
you a very nice trip to Munich and the rest of Europe.  To read up on
ED, go to http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/ and scroll down to their ED
sup-forum to educate yourself.  The biggest drawback is that you are on
the (no speed limit) Autobahn in a car that is not yet broken in AND you
have to wait for your baby to be shipped back to USA.

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joe_tide - 18 Mar 2006 04:29 GMT
>> Wife and I are considering buying a new 530i.
>> We've scanned both KBB & Edmunds, and it appears
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> TIA
> -G

You might want to post that question on Edmunds:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef0f831!make=BMW&model=5%20Series&
ed_makeindex=.ef0f831

or just read there a while.
 
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