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Car Forum / BMW Cars / May 2006

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E30 Brake fluid on carpet

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nichdl1 - 02 May 2006 00:35 GMT
I've got a 1990 BMW 325i convertible that I bought about a month ago..
Brake fluid light came on a couple of weeks ago so I put some brake
fluid in.  Today the light came on again.  So I put some more in.
Drove about five miles and had brake fluid on the carpet on the
driver's side.  How did this happen?  Can someone tell me what may be
wrong?

Thanks
Floyd Rogers - 02 May 2006 01:36 GMT
"nichdl1" <nichdl1@aol.com> wrote
> I've got a 1990 BMW 325i convertible that I bought about a month ago..
> Brake fluid light came on a couple of weeks ago so I put some brake
> fluid in.  Today the light came on again.  So I put some more in.
> Drove about five miles and had brake fluid on the carpet on the
> driver's side.  How did this happen?  Can someone tell me what may be
> wrong?

Your master cylinder has failed, and is leaking fluid.  You need to get
it replaced ASAP.  It's an easy DIY job, but you don't seem like a DIY guy,
so head to a brake shop.

FloydR
nichdl1 - 02 May 2006 04:18 GMT
How hard a job is it? and why does it leak on the carpet?
Floyd Rogers - 02 May 2006 05:17 GMT
"nichdl1" <nichdl1@aol.com> wrote
> How hard a job is it? and why does it leak on the carpet?

The hardest part is bleeding the system afterwards - usually
a two-person job (not hard, just tedious).

It leaks onto the carpet because the shaft that drives the
piston goes through the firewall.  The piston's seal is leaking,
and it goes back along the shaft through the firewall.

It won't leak if it's not driven.

FloydR
Dave Plowman (News) - 02 May 2006 09:51 GMT
> The hardest part is bleeding the system afterwards - usually
> a two-person job (not hard, just tedious).

If you do much DIY on brakes - including routine fluid changes - it's well
worth getting a pressure bleeding set. Not expensive - they use air
pressure from your spare wheel. Makes it an easy one man job, and far
quicker than manual bleeding.

You have to take care when assembling them to make sure you have no leaks
- otherwise brake fluid can go everywhere. But not a problem with care. ;-)

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nichdl1 - 02 May 2006 04:23 GMT
Will it continue to leak if I don't drive it?  My mechanic is booked
until next week.
Psycho - 02 May 2006 13:06 GMT
 You didn't mention 5 speed or auto but if it's a 5 speed then the
master cylinder for the clutch could also be at fault. Either way it
needs to be fixed as soon as you can...

>I've got a 1990 BMW 325i convertible that I bought about a month ago..
>Brake fluid light came on a couple of weeks ago so I put some brake
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>
>Thanks
nichdl1 - 02 May 2006 15:26 GMT
It is a 5 speed and I now suspect the clutch slave cylinder may be at
fault.  My mechanic had told me it was leaking when I was looking at
the car to buy.  There is no sign of a leak inside the engine
compartment around the master brake cylinder. It is not wet, nothing
dripping or any sign of a leak around it.  Just the fluid on the floor
of the car.  Do I need to replace both the clutch slave cylinder and
the master brake cylinder? or can I get by with just the clutch slave
cylinder (much less expensive)?
Floyd Rogers - 02 May 2006 15:37 GMT
"nichdl1" <nichdl1@aol.com> wrote
> It is a 5 speed and I now suspect the clutch slave cylinder may be at
> fault.  My mechanic had told me it was leaking when I was looking at
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the master brake cylinder? or can I get by with just the clutch slave
> cylinder (much less expensive)?

If you have oil INSIDE the car, it's the Master clutch cylinder that's
leaking, not the Slave:  a leaking slave - located on the front of the
bell housing - would only leak onto the road/garage floor.

FloydR
E28 Guy© - 02 May 2006 22:36 GMT
> > It is a 5 speed and I now suspect the clutch slave cylinder may be at
> > fault.  ...  Do I need to replace both the clutch slave cylinder and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> leaking, not the Slave:  a leaking slave - located on the front of the
> bell housing - would only leak onto the road/garage floor.

Jeez, I'm glad *somebody* is watching the store!  OF COURSE it's the
clutch master!  The brake master isn't inside!  Nor is the clutch slave
cylinder, unfortunately for the OP.  If the clutch master is leaking,
it needs to be replaced.  It's not real expensive for the part, but it
takes a contortionist to do it.  You should be prepared to pay
appropriately.
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E28 Guy© - 02 May 2006 23:25 GMT
> > It is a 5 speed and I now suspect the clutch slave cylinder may be at
> > fault.  ...  Do I need to replace both the clutch slave cylinder and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> leaking, not the Slave:  a leaking slave - located on the front of the
> bell housing - would only leak onto the road/garage floor.

Jeez, I'm glad *somebody* is watching the store!  OF COURSE it's the
clutch master!  The brake master isn't inside!  Nor is the clutch slave
cylinder, unfortunately for the OP.  If the clutch master is leaking,
it needs to be replaced.  It's not real expensive for the part, but it
takes a contortionist to do it.  You should be prepared to pay
appropriately.
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(Been there; done that)
Dave Plowman (News) - 02 May 2006 16:01 GMT
>  Do I need to replace both the clutch slave cylinder and
> the master brake cylinder? or can I get by with just the clutch slave
> cylinder (much less expensive)?

Both the brake and clutch cylinders as operated by the pedals are known as
master cylinders. Slave cylinders are the ones they operate - ie they do
what the master says. ;-)


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