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Car Forum / BMW Cars / May 2006

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745LI speedo problems?

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liteflyer 1 - 26 May 2006 06:30 GMT
anyone hear of the speedo being off in the 2002 to 2006 745 series?
Not the odometer but the speedo, could be as much as 10 to 15 mph.

Also I just found out that the brake lights will not work if the
ignition switch is not on. Is that right?

thanks
david
Dave Plowman (News) - 26 May 2006 09:15 GMT
> anyone hear of the speedo being off in the 2002 to 2006 745 series?
> Not the odometer but the speedo, could be as much as 10 to 15 mph.

Depends on the speed you measure it at. At 70, a BMW speedo will usually
read about 74 mph.

> Also I just found out that the brake lights will not work if the
> ignition switch is not on. Is that right?

I've never come across a car where the brake lights work *without* the
ignition on. Why would you want them to?

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Jan Kalin - 26 May 2006 14:13 GMT
>> anyone hear of the speedo being off in the 2002 to 2006 745 series?
>> Not the odometer but the speedo, could be as much as 10 to 15 mph.
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>I've never come across a car where the brake lights work *without* the

My old Volvo 244 had that.

>ignition on. Why would you want them to?

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Dave Plowman (News) - 26 May 2006 17:45 GMT
> >I've never come across a car where the brake lights work *without* the

> My old Volvo 244 had that.

> >ignition on. Why would you want them to?

Perhaps they got the wires to the headlamps crossed? ;-)

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Fred W - 26 May 2006 13:32 GMT
> anyone hear of the speedo being off in the 2002 to 2006 745 series?
> Not the odometer but the speedo, could be as much as 10 to 15 mph.

Almost all speedometers are "off", but usually only by between 5 -10 mph
and always such that they read higher than actual.  At what speed are
you measuring being off by 15 mph?

> Also I just found out that the brake lights will not work if the
> ignition switch is not on. Is that right?

Probably.  But here's an even more interesting factoid:  You can't drive
your car without the ignition switch on...  so who cares whether the
brake lights work then?

> thanks
> david

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Tom K. - 26 May 2006 17:22 GMT
> anyone hear of the speedo being off in the 2002 to 2006 745 series?
> Not the odometer but the speedo, could be as much as 10 to 15 mph.

About 3 to 4 % high is common.  How are you measuring it?  I suggest
checking it with the OBC which is usually pretty accurate on BMWs.

> Also I just found out that the brake lights will not work if the
> ignition switch is not on. Is that right?

Neither will the engine nor the power assist for the steering & brakes, so
it's best to keep the ignition on while driving or stopping!

Tom K.
liteflyer 1 - 26 May 2006 23:23 GMT
thanks for the reponse. I plan on checking the speedo out by using a
pace car with a known good speedo. As to the brake lights, every car I
have ever had or seen, the brake and other lights in general always
worked without the ignition being on. The lights have always been an
indepentant system from the ignition, at least on US cars. If someone
is on the side of the road or the ignition fails and you hit the
brakes, they should work as well as the brake lights. It is a safety
issue. I havn't checked it out yet, but this could mean that the em
flashers will not work if the ignition is off.
David

>> anyone hear of the speedo being off in the 2002 to 2006 745 series?
>> Not the odometer but the speedo, could be as much as 10 to 15 mph.
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>Tom K.
Tom K. - 26 May 2006 23:45 GMT
> thanks for the reponse. I plan on checking the speedo out by using a
> pace car with a known good speedo. As to the brake lights, every car I
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> flashers will not work if the ignition is off.
> David

As the emergency flashers are independent of the ignition on my Z4, I'll bet
they function the same way on your 7 - as well as on most other cars.
(Although I just checked and they don't work without the ignition on my
motorcycle.)

Tom K.
Dave Plowman (News) - 26 May 2006 23:53 GMT
> thanks for the reponse. I plan on checking the speedo out by using a
> pace car with a known good speedo. As to the brake lights, every car I
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> is on the side of the road or the ignition fails and you hit the
> brakes, they should work as well as the brake lights.

I'd say there's just as much chance of the brake light circuit failing as
the ignition - more on a BMW where the stop light switch isn't that
reliable.

> It is a safety issue. I havn't checked it out yet, but this could mean
> that the em flashers will not work if the ignition is off.

Flashers working with the ignition off would be a pain too - all to easy
to leave the car with the indicator switch to one side and come back to a
flat battery. The hazards work without the ignition on, though, for
obvious reasons.

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Fred W - 27 May 2006 11:34 GMT
> thanks for the reponse. I plan on checking the speedo out by using a
> pace car with a known good speedo.

You'd be better off using a GPS if you want to know the actual speed.
If you're just trying to acertain that your speedo is "normal" than you
can compare it as you say.

As to the brake lights, every car I
> have ever had or seen, the brake and other lights in general always
> worked without the ignition being on. The lights have always been an
> indepentant system from the ignition, at least on US cars. If someone
> is on the side of the road or the ignition fails and you hit the
> brakes, they should work as well as the brake lights. It is a safety
> issue.

I don't get it.  Yes, I've noticed that the brake lights worked without
the key on some US made cars , but I fail to see how this is a "safety
issue".  To begin with, the ignition failing is a very rare occurrance.
 And if/when it does, it would be when you attempt to start the car,
not while it is running down the road.  In the rare circumstance that
the ignition switch did fail while underway, your main problem would be
lack of power assist to the brakes and steering, not whether the brake
lights were coming on...

> I havn't checked it out yet, but this could mean that the em
> flashers will not work if the ignition is off.

You will find the emergency flashers (aka hazards) work just fine with
the key removed.

> David

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