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Low oil, big problem?  '94 325

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mm - 28 Jun 2006 01:57 GMT
I've googled but don't feel confident about what I found.  Any help is
appreciated.

My friend, who doesn't have near as much money as most BMW owners, was
driving today and her '94 325 BMW automatic transmission went out of
gear.  She moved the shift lever to 3 and still out of gear, so she
moved it to 2, and it caught and she drove back to work slowly.

Later in the parking lot, she was able to drive it normally for a
couple hundred feet, but she didn't try to go farther than that.

No obvious evidence of leaking, but I suppose it could still just be
leaking, yes???

She's going to take it in, but if the problem is worse than a leak,
could it also be less than needing a new or rebuilt trans?  Is there
something for $100 or 200 that could account for this?

If it is just leaking, can I once in a while check the level and add
more fluid if necessary??  (She doesn't want to spend a lot because
she was already planning to buy a new car.)

If I do add trans fluid, what am I supposed to use??  She's convinced
normal ATF is not acceptable.  Obviously a '94 is out of warranty, but
we don't want to ruin the transmission for the next owner if it's not
ruined already.

I gather there is a bolt on the passenger side of the transmission to
add fluid.  It's easy to find, right?  And takes a standard metric
wrench?   If it's hard to get under the car, any reason a trustworthy
gas station can't add fluid?

Thanks a lot,

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mm - 28 Jun 2006 04:38 GMT
Sorry about the thread title.  I meant transmission fluid, and I don't
know it is actually low, but if it's not low, I expect the repair will
be very expensive.  So I was thinking "low".  If the answers don't
apply this time, they will for her next car.

>I've googled but don't feel confident about what I found.  Any help is
>appreciated.
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Fred W - 28 Jun 2006 11:35 GMT
>>I've googled but don't feel confident about what I found.  Any help is
>>appreciated.
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It's not likely to be low trans fluid.  More likely some worn components
or sticking valves.

Yes, many of these cars use special "lifetime" fluid depending on which
model of transmission it actually is.  So don't just dump Dexron III in
there until you determine what is correct.

Bring it to a reputable transmission specialist and if one of the first
words out of their mouths is "rebuild" before even doing a teardown go
find another that will actually diagnose the problem first.

It may be expense, but it also might not be.
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adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 28 Jun 2006 15:31 GMT
> It's not likely to be low trans fluid.  More likely some worn components
> or sticking valves.
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>
> It may be expense, but it also might not be.

Could very well be low and/or burned oil.  I've known a few auto boxes
come back to life after a top-up (followed by numerous flushes and
refills)
Rex B - 28 Jun 2006 17:00 GMT
>> Bring it to a reputable transmission specialist and if one of the first
>> words out of their mouths is "rebuild" before even doing a teardown go
>> find another that will actually diagnose the problem first.

In my experience "reputable transmission specialist" is an oxymoron of
the first magnitude.
Richard Sexton - 28 Jun 2006 18:14 GMT
>>> Bring it to a reputable transmission specialist and if one of the first
>>> words out of their mouths is "rebuild" before even doing a teardown go
>>> find another that will actually diagnose the problem first.
>
>In my experience "reputable transmission specialist" is an oxymoron of
>the first magnitude.

What he said.

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mm - 29 Jun 2006 22:54 GMT
>> It's not likely to be low trans fluid.  More likely some worn components
>> or sticking valves.
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>come back to life after a top-up (followed by numerous flushes and
>refills)

Thanks.  That's good to know, for next time and for me wrt other
makes.  They say it's bad and will be 1500 to repair or rebuild.  This
would be ok if she hadn't had the thing rebuilt only 2 1/2 years ago
at the same place.  They charged 1800 then and say they are charging
less now because it only lasted such a short time.

Apparently she had it repaired or rebuilt on location last time.  They
didnt seem to offer her a "factory" rebuilt trans.  My impression is
that those are better than shop rebuilt, because they do them over and
over, have more space, and replace more parts, not just the ones that
have failed or are near failure, but everything that ever fails (maybe
other than freak things that have only failed once.)

Do they have "factory" rebuilt transmissions for BMW?  I don't mean
the BMW factory but some place that does nothing but rebuilding, no
installation.

She doesn't want to keep towing it all over the place, and I guess she
shopped last time.  But it is annoying to pay the same place twice in
3 years.

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Dave Plowman (News) - 29 Jun 2006 23:32 GMT
> Apparently she had it repaired or rebuilt on location last time.  They
> didnt seem to offer her a "factory" rebuilt trans.  My impression is
> that those are better than shop rebuilt, because they do them over and
> over, have more space, and replace more parts, not just the ones that
> have failed or are near failure, but everything that ever fails (maybe
> other than freak things that have only failed once.)

It's common practice to replace all the wearing parts when overhauling an
auto - and those non wearing parts that have a history of failing. Also
the torque converter if there are any signs of fluid contamination. The
labour cost is so much more than the parts that it doesn't make sense not
to. No specialist worth the name will simply repair a fault if it means
removing the box.

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mm - 30 Jun 2006 02:06 GMT
>> Apparently she had it repaired or rebuilt on location last time.  They
>> didnt seem to offer her a "factory" rebuilt trans.  My impression is
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>to. No specialist worth the name will simply repair a fault if it means
>removing the box.

Well I doubt they will tell her what specific part they found that
didn't work, even though I would love to know.

What's the difference between factory rebuilders and in-shop
rebuilders?  And have you all not heard that factory rebuilders do a
better job?

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Dave Plowman (News) - 30 Jun 2006 09:16 GMT
> >It's common practice to replace all the wearing parts when overhauling
> >an auto - and those non wearing parts that have a history of failing.
> >Also the torque converter if there are any signs of fluid
> >contamination. The labour cost is so much more than the parts that it
> >doesn't make sense not to. No specialist worth the name will simply
> >repair a fault if it means removing the box.

> Well I doubt they will tell her what specific part they found that
> didn't work, even though I would love to know.

No reason why they shouldn't? It is possible to diagnose most auto faults
by going through a series of checks even if it doesn't have electronic
diagnostics built in.

> What's the difference between factory rebuilders and in-shop
> rebuilders?  And have you all not heard that factory rebuilders do a
> better job?

If it is the factory that made the transmission - ie ZF in this case -
they probably should do a better job since they have access to any
modifications, etc. However, there's no intrinsic reason why a specialist
can't equal their standards.

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news - 30 Jun 2006 03:24 GMT
how the hell does a rebuild only last a couple of years ?
does she drive between alaska and mexico all the time ?

sounds like a ripoff.
go somewhere else.

> >> It's not likely to be low trans fluid.  More likely some worn components
> >> or sticking valves.
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