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bmw cooling thingy problem

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Jules - 23 Jul 2006 11:46 GMT
http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/overheating.htm

i found this....
RT - 25 Jul 2006 03:49 GMT
>http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/overheating.htm
>
>i found this....

since you just replaced the pump it is unlikely the impeller. My guess
is that you still have air in the system. They don't say bleed air
bleed air bleed air.... etc for nothing !
Jules - 25 Jul 2006 12:01 GMT
> >http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/overheating.htm
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> is that you still have air in the system. They don't say bleed air
> bleed air bleed air.... etc for nothing !

I did it 3 times the other day, letting it cool each time, front jacked
up.....hell im stumped.
joe_tide - 25 Jul 2006 12:09 GMT
>> since you just replaced the pump it is unlikely the impeller. My guess
>> is that you still have air in the system. They don't say bleed air
>> bleed air bleed air.... etc for nothing !
>
> I did it 3 times the other day, letting it cool each time, front jacked
> up.....hell im stumped.

It's time to take it to the dealer before the head or engine is ruined (if
it isn't already)

Sounds like you may spend more money swapping parts than the dealer will
charge.
Jules - 25 Jul 2006 12:18 GMT
> >> since you just replaced the pump it is unlikely the impeller. My guess
> >> is that you still have air in the system. They don't say bleed air
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> It's time to take it to the dealer before the head or engine is ruined (if
> it isn't already)

I never let it get into the red. it was just willing to go in that direction
and i let it.

> Sounds like you may spend more money swapping parts than the dealer will
> charge.

Im going to have another crack at it this afternoon.
adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 25 Jul 2006 13:28 GMT
> Im going to have another crack at it this afternoon.

Is it really overheating or just a bad sender?
Andrew Morton - 25 Jul 2006 14:14 GMT
>> Im going to have another crack at it this afternoon.
>
> Is it really overheating or just a bad sender?

Or maybe a faulty new thermostat?

Andrew
Jules - 25 Jul 2006 14:31 GMT
> >> Im going to have another crack at it this afternoon.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Andrew

tried it without a thermostat. i would have thought the engine would take
twice as long to warm as without one, but seems to be the same rate.

I have some coolant on the way, but i cant find out the total amount the
engine/rad holds so i can get the correct 50/50 mix with water..its a Uk
spec if that helps
tahnks
adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 26 Jul 2006 10:22 GMT
> I have some coolant on the way, but i cant find out the total amount the
> engine/rad holds so i can get the correct 50/50 mix with water..its a Uk
> spec if that helps
> tahnks

I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to put a proper coolant mix
in while you're still sorting out the overheating.   Get a manual or a
handbook.
Jules - 26 Jul 2006 12:07 GMT
> > I have some coolant on the way, but i cant find out the total amount the
> > engine/rad holds so i can get the correct 50/50 mix with water..its a Uk
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> in while you're still sorting out the overheating.   Get a manual or a
> handbook.

I bled it twice yesterday, took it for 2 longish drives and the gauge stayed
bang on half way...im hoping now its sorted...fingers crossed!
Tried to find a manual, but couldnt as i was told one was not done for this
car.
adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 26 Jul 2006 14:12 GMT
> I bled it twice yesterday, took it for 2 longish drives and the gauge stayed
> bang on half way...im hoping now its sorted...fingers crossed!
> Tried to find a manual, but couldnt as i was told one was not done for this
> car.

If you tried really really hard, I guess you *might* be able to get
yourself a manual or at least a handbook then you *might* stop making
yourself look really stupid.
Jules - 26 Jul 2006 15:50 GMT
> > I bled it twice yesterday, took it for 2 longish drives and the gauge stayed
> > bang on half way...im hoping now its sorted...fingers crossed!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> yourself a manual or at least a handbook then you *might* stop making
> yourself look really stupid.

Seeing i was told there wasnt one, cant really see how i can get one...and
this is my first BMW, i know a lot about Toyotas but not these, never had to
bleed a rad on one of those....anything you want to tell me about the 18RG
engine????
Psycho - 26 Jul 2006 17:38 GMT
>> > I bled it twice yesterday, took it for 2 longish drives and the gauge
>stayed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>bleed a rad on one of those....anything you want to tell me about the 18RG
>engine????

 Seems you went to a place that doesn't deserve your business any
longer. There's a manual of some sort out for any fairly recent car on
the market by the time it hits 3 years old. As for the 18RG engine,
twin OH cam, inline 4. They never installed them in any BMW though :)
Jules - 26 Jul 2006 17:51 GMT
> >> > I bled it twice yesterday, took it for 2 longish drives and the gauge
> >stayed
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> the market by the time it hits 3 years old. As for the 18RG engine,
> twin OH cam, inline 4. They never installed them in any BMW though :)

I was told there was not a Haynes for that model of BMW (same went for a
Gen1 Celica , i just got one for a Gen2 as the engine, susp etc was the
same, just differant body)  I looked on ebay and saw loads of cd's but the
ones i looked at didnt have the E34 M50....

Never had a European car, all my last cars were 70's Celicas, so power
steering etc, are all new to me, same goes for bleeding radiators, but so
far so good....
Pashlipops - 26 Jul 2006 21:20 GMT
> I was told there was not a Haynes for that model of BMW (same went for a
> Gen1 Celica , i just got one for a Gen2 as the engine, susp etc was the
> same, just differant body)  I looked on ebay and saw loads of cd's but the
> ones i looked at didnt have the E34 M50....

1. M50 engine will be covered in Haynes 3210 (3 series).
2. Bentley do a manual for E34 -
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/product.htm?code=b595
3. There should be instruction in the TIS that normally is bundled with
the EPC on EBay -
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=bmw+epc
4. Hope your problem is solved!

Nick
Jules - 26 Jul 2006 21:38 GMT
> > I was told there was not a Haynes for that model of BMW (same went for a
> > Gen1 Celica , i just got one for a Gen2 as the engine, susp etc was the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Nick

thanks for your input, much appricated.
Richard Sexton - 26 Jul 2006 21:05 GMT
>>> Im going to have another crack at it this afternoon.
>>
>> Is it really overheating or just a bad sender?
>
>Or maybe a faulty new thermostat?

These can be tested "offline" with a meat thermometer and some
boilking water. I've had two bad thermostats in a row, new in
box BOSCH, neithe rone was any good. That's why I test ALL
incoming new ones first.

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Jules - 26 Jul 2006 21:38 GMT
> >>> Im going to have another crack at it this afternoon.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> box BOSCH, neithe rone was any good. That's why I test ALL
> incoming new ones first.

ah, had that with computer components....will test in future

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Jules - 25 Jul 2006 14:32 GMT
> > Im going to have another crack at it this afternoon.
>
> Is it really overheating or just a bad sender?

A few people said its overheating or getting that direction on the gauge.
cheers
 
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