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Oil Burner

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Toby T - 01 Aug 2006 22:50 GMT
I have replaced my trusty E36 328 with an E39 530.  I've done about 9k miles
since purchase and have had to put three litres of oil in it (regular
intervals).  Trusty E36 didn't need a drop.  Does this sound excessive and
something to worry about?  There's no drips when parked up so I suppose it's
just burning it as I'm chugging along, but as I'm comparing with old car and
my E39 is several years newer than my E36 and I'm doing exactly the same
type of driving, I'm getting concerned.

Also, as it's pretty much run in at 6 yrs old with 60k on the clock, is it
still really worth using fully synthetic (I'll just stick to BM service
lights for oil changes).  Can't believe how much more it costs over
'regular' oil like castrol gtx.  Maybe semi-synthetic - or is this just
false economy when engine dies on me?

Toby T.
ReddDawg - 02 Aug 2006 15:28 GMT
I went from a 94 325iS to a 2001 530 sport and have had the same issue
but at a smaller scale. I do about a quart every 5K. I am running (as
always) Mobil 1 but the 530 calls for 0/40. I contributed some of the
oil loss to the weight of the oil - the 325 is still pounded on
actively  with over 160K on the ticker and still does not use enough
between change intervals to mess with it. I do change per the lights.

The 325 is not babied a bit - Dinan chip, exhaust work, cold air
intake, etc. The 530 sends it's life on cruise between 65 and 80.
Pashlipops - 03 Aug 2006 18:07 GMT
My E46 330ci uses 1 litre per 1000 miles, this is normal according to
BMW.  My E36 325i used none between changes (OK, not none, but I didnt
need to top it up).  I find the 330 uses less on motorway journeys
which makes me think it is the startup and cold running that is the
main cause.

Makes you think about the service interval of 15000 miles as the engine
has received 15 litres of new oil, it is a continuous renewal
process!!!!

I bought 4 x 5 litre Motul LL01 BMW specific oil from Opie Oils -
www.opieoils.co.uk - there is a discount scheme through
www.e36coupe.com which makes the oil very very cheap.  Free delivery
too!

I chose the Motul -
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performance_lubricants/pdf/motul/BMWSpecificLL01_5W-30.pdf
- as it is a 5/30, so thicker at lower temperatures to reduce the
useage at start-up.

Opie will reccommend Fuchs, I chose not to follow the advice as it is a
0/30 and is 4 litres for the same price as 5 of the Motul, both of
which meet BMW's standards.

I havent actually started using it yet, still using up some Castrol RS
0/40 that I had hanging around.

PP
Toby T - 04 Aug 2006 17:33 GMT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pashlipops" <nickpashley@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.bmw
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Oil Burner

> My E46 330ci uses 1 litre per 1000 miles, this is normal according to
> BMW.

Nice to know mine isn't excessive then.

> Makes you think about the service interval of 15000 miles as the engine
> has received 15 litres of new oil, it is a continuous renewal
> process!!!!

How bizarre - would have thought that this kind of oil usage must be right
at the edge of the engine design's tolerance.  I would be panicking if mine
was using so much.  And the cost!  If 4l of proper oil is best part of £40,
then you're getting through £150 just refilling it in between services.
Crazy.

> I bought 4 x 5 litre Motul LL01 BMW specific oil from Opie Oils -
> www.opieoils.co.uk - there is a discount scheme through
> www.e36coupe.com which makes the oil very very cheap.  Free delivery
> too!

Thanks for links - cheaper than Halfords!

As for which oil to use - I get the impression from other posts that using
lower quality than fully synthetic 0-30 might be ok if oil changes are very
5k or so, but must be the 'proper' stuff if only changing with the lights.
I guess this is true for most of the life of the car, so I'm sticking with
the expensive stuff for now.

Thanks for your posts

Toby T.
Pashlipops - 05 Aug 2006 09:07 GMT
The Motul BMW approved stuff worked out at about 5 pounds per litre
from Opie (on a purchase of 20 litres with discount and delivery).

Fuchs, which I understand is used in the BMW factory, works out at
about 7 pounds per litre (on a purchase of 16 litres with discount and
delivery - or 5 if you buy 25 litres).
Toby T - 07 Aug 2006 18:35 GMT
> The Motul BMW approved stuff worked out at about 5 pounds per litre
> from Opie (on a purchase of 20 litres with discount and delivery).
>
> Fuchs, which I understand is used in the BMW factory, works out at
> about 7 pounds per litre (on a purchase of 16 litres with discount and
> delivery - or 5 if you buy 25 litres).

Well that makes it a lot cheaper.  Can't readily see how you get a discount
for larger purchase - just phone up rather than order via website?
Pashlipops - 07 Aug 2006 20:59 GMT
Toby T, send me an email.
 
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