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ggslash - 18 Aug 2006 16:15 GMT with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw?
Jules - 18 Aug 2006 16:59 GMT > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? RWD, was told of fantastic drivers car, handling too
Mike G - 18 Aug 2006 18:58 GMT >> with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > > RWD, was told of fantastic drivers car, handling too Yup. If you prefer RWD there's little other choice on a limited budget. Of the few there are, choosing a BMW is a no-brainer. Mike.
Jules - 18 Aug 2006 21:31 GMT > >> with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Of the few there are, choosing a BMW is a no-brainer. > Mike. All my cars have been RWD, thats a must...but then i have have much cash so for years always had old Celicas, bags of cheap fun
Dori A Schmetterling - 21 Aug 2006 21:11 GMT That depends. If one is prepared to drop one's blinkers there is the three-pointed star (despite your implication...).
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> Yup. If you prefer RWD there's little other choice on a limited budget. > Of the few there are, choosing a BMW is a no-brainer. > Mike. Richard Sexton - 21 Aug 2006 22:56 GMT >That depends. If one is prepared to drop one's blinkers there is the >three-pointed star (despite your implication...). You're not gonna go tear-assing aruond in a Mercedes (unless it's a high maintenance 190 16v). It's a whole nother smoke.
Get one of each I say.
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Dori A Schmetterling - 22 Aug 2006 17:01 GMT There was an expression in Germany (don't know if still used):
A BMW is the car for a man going places.
A Merc is the car for the man who has arrived.
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> You're not gonna go tear-assing aruond in a Mercedes (unless it's > a high maintenance 190 16v). It's a whole nother smoke. > > Get one of each I say. Richard Sexton - 22 Aug 2006 17:20 GMT >There was an expression in Germany (don't know if still used): > >A BMW is the car for a man going places. > >A Merc is the car for the man who has arrived. Eh. You need both. Sometimes you really feel like taking one of the other and it's interesting to me the different feeling you get sitting behind the wheel of these two different cars - as opposed to sitting behind the wheel of some shitbox like a ford focus or a toyota which seems to sort of whine "can we get this over with" at you.
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Dori A Schmetterling - 24 Aug 2006 18:40 GMT I have had Focuses (Foci if you prefer) and a Mondeo on hire and found them quite decent. Quite well built and appointments ok.
One Focus was a 4-door (as opposed to hatchback) and it looked so DULL I felt like nodding off every time I had to get in... (but still nicely built etc - was Ghia version).
Had an Opel Meriva the other week with a very nice td engine. But oh, was I glad I have RWD at home. Put my foot down hard and boy, what a starting drag on the steering wheel. Maybe it's just an Opel/Vauxhall problem or just a problem of a badly-adjusted car, but I din't like it one bit.
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> different cars - as opposed to sitting behind the wheel > of some shitbox like a ford focus or a toyota which seems > to sort of whine "can we get this over with" at you. Richard Sexton - 24 Aug 2006 20:40 GMT >I have had Focuses (Foci if you prefer) and a Mondeo on hire and found them >quite decent. Quite well built and appointments ok. My parents, in their 70s, have a focus. The first thing me and my kids notice is how much faster it goes when my folks aren't in the car. I suppose it's capable and gets good milage and all byt my god is it dull and numb.
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Dori A Schmetterling - 25 Aug 2006 18:49 GMT BTW, re FWD I meant to say, "what a startLing drag on the steering wheel".
When I am inside a Focus the view out isn't that much different from other cars, which is why I mourn the passing of the upright star on so many Merc models. My CLK Cab is the last of its line, for example. The new model already has a stuck-on star. Also, on older models with less-sloping bonnets the stars are much easier to see. What one has to tolerate in the interests of the Cw value....
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>>I have had Focuses (Foci if you prefer) and a Mondeo on hire and found >>them [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > car. I suppose it's capable and gets good milage and all byt > my god is it dull and numb. Fred W - 27 Aug 2006 21:50 GMT >>I have had Focuses (Foci if you prefer) and a Mondeo on hire and found them >>quite decent. Quite well built and appointments ok. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > car. I suppose it's capable and gets good milage and all byt > my god is it dull and numb. Is it really that much more dull than, say... a Honda Civic (which is all the rage with the younger folks)?
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Richard Sexton - 28 Aug 2006 02:56 GMT >>>I have had Focuses (Foci if you prefer) and a Mondeo on hire and found them >>>quite decent. Quite well built and appointments ok. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Is it really that much more dull than, say... a Honda Civic (which is >all the rage with the younger folks)? God yes. Hondas are a blast.
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Dori A Schmetterling - 28 Aug 2006 23:41 GMT Unfortunately they don't feature on Avis car lists in Europe or Middle East...
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> There was an expression in Germany (don't know if still used): > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > Get one of each I say. Dori A Schmetterling - 29 Aug 2006 18:54 GMT I am?
How did you work that out?
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> There was an expression in Germany (don't know if still used): > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > Get one of each I say. Dave Plowman (News) - 18 Aug 2006 18:46 GMT > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? What has nationality got to do with it? Does anyone buy a car by where it's made or who owns the company these days?
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ggslash - 19 Aug 2006 01:59 GMT > > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW > To e-mail, change noise into sound. i said why out of all german cars did you choose bmw, i didnt say why did you choose a german car, other countries produce other types of cars, havn't you notice? german are more into the sides of richness with leather trim wood grain, cars arnt particurly quick, arnt really meant for speed but can, but we all know why their known mostly for. As for other countrys they have their own style, i asked why you choose that specific car out of germany.
Dave Plowman (News) - 19 Aug 2006 09:26 GMT > > > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > > > > What has nationality got to do with it? Does anyone buy a car by where > > it's made or who owns the company these days?
> i said why out of all german cars did you choose bmw, i didnt say why > did you choose a german car, other countries produce other types of > cars, havn't you notice? And there is no such thing as a 'German car type'.
> german are more into the sides of richness > with leather trim wood grain, cars arnt particurly quick, arnt really > meant for speed but can, but we all know why their known mostly for. So a Jaguar doesn't have rich wood and leather trim? Or a Porsche isn't made for speed?
> As for other countrys they have their own style, i asked why you choose > that specific car out of germany. I wonder why?
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ggslash - 20 Aug 2006 15:34 GMT > > > > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW > To e-mail, change noise into sound. -----------------------
you are more facinated in debating, as E-Brown showed, he understood what i was saying.
please....
Dave Plowman (News) - 20 Aug 2006 17:57 GMT > you are more facinated in debating, as E-Brown showed, he understood > what i was saying.
> please.... You're a prime example of what's wrong with education today.
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ggslash - 21 Aug 2006 02:39 GMT and your a prime example of an a.shole
Dori A Schmetterling - 21 Aug 2006 21:14 GMT Definitely a lack of education.
Poor grasp of language and spelling. Can't express himself without resorting to bad language.
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> and your a prime example of an a.shole Dave Plowman (News) - 21 Aug 2006 23:03 GMT > Definitely a lack of education.
> Poor grasp of language and spelling. Can't express himself without > resorting to bad language.
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> > and your a prime example of an a.shole Add to that a provincial knowledge of cars. German cars he's seen the US might well all have 'leather trim wood grain' (although I doubt it), but in other countries BMW and M-B are used as taxis with cloth or vinyl upholstery.
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ggslash - 22 Aug 2006 03:36 GMT lack of education, i find it funny that you flatter your self with your own intelligence over a topic such as bmw, big deal if you claim to know about bmw's.
the lack of education was from your parents to teach you the calling others dumb was a great thing.
i feel sorry for you that you have some insecurity issues. that you have to feel superior then others by calling them dumb
theirs doctors out their who can help you.
Dave Plowman (News) - 22 Aug 2006 09:19 GMT > i feel sorry for you that you have some insecurity issues. that you > have to feel superior then others by calling them dumb Heh heh. Read the thread. You were the first one to slip into insults.
But until you learn the protocol of posting expect even more...
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ggslash - 22 Aug 2006 13:26 GMT why would i insult? ask your self, because your self flattering remarks are pathetic, and also if that head gets any bigger you can make ya own country.
Dori A Schmetterling - 22 Aug 2006 17:04 GMT I don't think anyone was calling anyone "dumb". In a written forum nobody -- unless personally familiar with said person -- can tell if anyone is unable to speak or not...
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Fred W - 24 Aug 2006 16:31 GMT > lack of education, i find it funny that you flatter your self with your > own intelligence over a topic such as bmw, big deal if you claim to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > theirs doctors out their who can help you. This is rich...
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Richard Sexton - 22 Aug 2006 17:08 GMT >Add to that a provincial knowledge of cars. German cars he's seen the US >might well all have 'leather trim wood grain' (although I doubt it), but >in other countries BMW and M-B are used as taxis with cloth or vinyl >upholstery. Termites would have got at my 633 then. There aint no wood nowhere except in the drivers head.
BMW and MB are more alike that say, Audi or Porsche. MB's are made more for comfort and BMW"s made more for performance, but do not underestimate the comfort of a BMW or performance on an MB. The similarities also extend to what comes as standard on models throughout the price range. The big cars (MB S class, BMW 7 series) always have wood. The smaller and cheaper cars, less to none although this is also a function of time - older cars seems to have more as do very new ones.
There is also the phenomenon that (and I don't know how this works with BMW but suspect it follows the MB model) where only a small percentage of the models made are brought in by the american imported and typically only the higher end ones that comes with lots of goodies only found as options in Germany. People make a big deal of a benz in the US. It's the moral equivalent of a Chevy in Germany. It's just a car there.
I've always associated a heavy use of wood in car interiors with British cars, not German ones.
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Dori A Schmetterling - 22 Aug 2006 17:14 GMT I must admit to some degree of puzzlement when seeing "leather" etc and "German" in association in the same sentence. Whilst, of course, they do have it, it is more common to think of 'English' cars in this connection, especially if the words "luxurious" or "sumptious" are brought into play. Ownership of the marque is neither here nor there as the present owners seem to want to continue the tradition started decades ago.
I have a fairly upmarket model from one of the said German brands with leather seats and wood trim. The leather is actually quite nice but the wood trim definitely looks like it came out of a plastics molding machine. The overall effect is nowhere near the 'drawing room luxury' of a Jag or Bentley.
Actually the main reason I have leather is because I was advised to get it in view of the car being a cab (riolet, not taxi-) and leather being more weather-resistant.
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> Add to that a provincial knowledge of cars. German cars he's seen the US > might well all have 'leather trim wood grain' (although I doubt it), but > in other countries BMW and M-B are used as taxis with cloth or vinyl > upholstery. [...]
E Brown - 19 Aug 2006 10:29 GMT >i said why out of all german cars did you choose bmw, i didnt say why >did you choose a german car, other countries produce other types of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >for other countrys they have their own style, i asked why you choose >that specific car out of germany. Wow. I don't think the Germany on our planet is the same as the one you're discussing. epbrown -- "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people will settle for the car." Chris Titus 2003 BMW 325i Black/Black, 2003 BMW Z4 Black/Black
bmoag - 18 Aug 2006 19:12 GMT I'm still wondering every time I have to touch that f***ing I-thing in the central console. Drives great. Lousy cupholders.
Mike G - 18 Aug 2006 19:55 GMT > I'm still wondering every time I have to touch that f***ing I-thing in the > central console. > Drives great. > Lousy cupholders. TBH I can't see their purpose. I would never drive with a cup of liquid in them, and if you're stationary who needs them. If they provided somewhere to put a cup that is otherwise non existant OK, but the front holders in my E39 are hardly necessary IMO. Mike.
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 19 Aug 2006 14:37 GMT > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? My daughter lives in England and loves her BMW. She loves the RWD, and remarks on how great the car is in handling as well. I live in the US and I am very tempted to buy a BMW for myself, not sure what model yet. Helen
Jules - 19 Aug 2006 17:39 GMT > > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > yet. > Helen Wow a girl understanding RWD over a FWD..never seen that before, not much differance in normal driving but for pleasure i only like RWD....my old beemer gave me pleasure from the minute i had her, not many cars have done that, even much more powerful ones...infact my old tiny dead underpowerd car was fun.
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 19 Aug 2006 21:01 GMT > > > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > that, even much more powerful ones...infact my old tiny dead underpowerd car > was fun. Thanks, I taught her everything she knows about cars, she's only 21, but it's invaluable to know these things especially being so far away from home. We're both Beemer fans. Helen
adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 21 Aug 2006 13:41 GMT > > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > yet. > Helen A nice blue one? ;-)
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 21 Aug 2006 15:31 GMT > > > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > A nice blue one? ;-) For sure!! It has to be a blue one! :^)
Tomislav Buric - 21 Aug 2006 19:33 GMT > with all the the other german brands of car, why did you choose bmw? Because I (still) cannot afford myself a Porsch.
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