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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / July 2007

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Analysing a left-reverse curve

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Carl Rogers - 12 Jul 2007 04:37 GMT
Hi All,

A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon.  When space is tight, the curve
helps maintain the continuity of a through-road.  What's uncommon is if the
reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways,
is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough
to fit a freight truck.  For demonstration:

http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/left-reverse.html

Cheers,

Carl Rogers
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MLOM - 12 Jul 2007 04:54 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/calrog
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Where did you find that?  It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do.
Andrew Tompkins - 12 Jul 2007 22:38 GMT
>> Hi All,
>>
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>
> Where did you find that?  It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do.

He must be running out of photo submissions and gas money.  Between this
and the name drop a couple of days ago (it's relatively common to see
personal identifiers [name, nom de net, domain name] in search keys;
they show up in my website's stats also), he hasn't added anything to
his non-temporary website content or provided anything new or meaningful
in terms of information.

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Carl Rogers - 13 Jul 2007 03:48 GMT
> Where did you find that?  It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do.

Hey GR,

It's in San Mateo, Calif. along CalTrain.  Can you believe that a 1h15m
train ride takes faster than driving?  Such is life in the Peninsula. :-|

Hopefully the commute in KC is less hectic.

Cheers,

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My Land of Misery - 13 Jul 2007 04:01 GMT
> > Where did you find that?  It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do.
>
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> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/calrog
> ********

Greetings Carl.

KC isn't bad for a metro area, but it does have its share of choke
points.  Fortunately, my daily commute of 6 miles avoids them all.
I'm well south of the bulk of the rush hour traffic, with both my home
and my employer south of the notorious Grandview Triangle.

I had my one-time experience in S. CA back in June 1995, visiting my
brother during his short stay in San Diego.  I hit morning rush near
San Bernardino, and my car (which handled the mountains and desert
quite well) blew 3 freeze plugs and two hoses on I-215.  I spent all
day in the shop due to the parts requiring transport from Los
Angeles.  The positive effect of that was crossing the Mojave Desert
(I-15) at night.  That made for some interesting lighting sights upon
entering Nevada.

Regards.
G.R. Van | Kansas City | http://www.mylandofmisery.com/roads/
Larry Harvilla - 13 Jul 2007 08:33 GMT
>>> Where did you find that?  It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do.
>> Hey GR,
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> KC isn't bad for a metro area, but it does have its share of choke
> points.

The traffic disaster that is I-29/I-35/I-70/US 24/the Paseo Bridge on
line 2.

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Scott en Aztlán - 13 Jul 2007 14:52 GMT
My Land of Misery <grvan@netzero.net> said in rec.autos.driving:

>I had my one-time experience in S. CA back in June 1995, visiting my
>brother during his short stay in San Diego.  I hit morning rush near
>San Bernardino, and my car (which handled the mountains and desert
>quite well) blew 3 freeze plugs and two hoses on I-215.

I guess the experience has soured you on driving in SoCal? :)
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Steve A. - 12 Jul 2007 04:58 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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> is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough
> to fit a freight truck.  For demonstration:

Actually, it is very common for a curve to be narrower than the
straightaways, because it has to be curving around something, and that
something can impose a barrier on how wide the road can be.  It is
also very common to not have parallel parking on a reverse curve, or
even on a straightaway for that matter.  I'm not clicking your link to
glorify your site hits (and I'm sure you boost your own site hit count
whenever you can via the refresh button), but what you're describing
sounds like an ordinary rural or suburban street to me.
bdbr13@yahoo.com - 12 Jul 2007 18:09 GMT
It looks like a neckdown. It's just a street narrowing past a
restriction, right-of-way it looks like. That's all.
Carl Rogers - 13 Jul 2007 04:50 GMT
>> Hi All,
>>
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> whenever you can via the refresh button), but what you're describing
> sounds like an ordinary rural or suburban street to me.

Here's a progress report on Steve's argument style:

(1)  He broke down my three collective arguments (to describe the road)
into separate modules.
(2)  He then downplayed the significance of each three arguments
separately, as if each weren't part of a collective.
(3)  Thinking that he has downplayed the argument, he then shifts to
personal attribution, attacking the personal character of the OP.
(4)  Since he feels that he has the foot-in-the-door w/ the downplay of
personal character, he proceeds to introduce his perception of the OP's
website, and its level of success.

In summary, he follows a classic pattern to attack personal character:

(a)  Downplay the argument.  Then;
(b)  Provide his feelings of one's character. Then;
(c)  Provide an unfounded explanation to create social bias.

Ironically, this kind of behaviour is quite common in a junior-high
classroom.

--Carl
My Land of Misery - 13 Jul 2007 04:52 GMT
> >> Hi All,
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm afraid it's also too common here on mtr.
Sherman L. Cahal - 13 Jul 2007 05:14 GMT
> > >> Hi All,
>
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>
> I'm afraid it's also too common here on mtr.

In Carl.
Scott en Aztlán - 13 Jul 2007 14:55 GMT
"Sherman L. Cahal" <shermancahal@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving:

>> > Ironically, this kind of behaviour is quite common in a junior-high
>> > classroom.
>>
>> I'm afraid it's also too common here on mtr.
>
>In Carl.

So who's gonna post a "progress report" on Cal's argument style? :)
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Imam Widdershins - 12 Jul 2007 22:17 GMT
Carl Rogers spake thusly:

> Hi All,
>
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> Carl Rogers
> "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm"

Still zigging when you should be zagging, Carl?

Imam Widdershins
 
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