A good friend of mine has had a string of REALLY bad luck lately.
A few weeks ago, he was driving through his parking lot at work when a
young co-worker backed out of a parking space into his car. The
teenaged boy at first attempted to deny any responsibility for the
collision, but ultimately he was found at fault and his insurance paid
for the repairs to my friend's car.
A week or two after the car was repaired, he was hit AGAIN, this time
by a 16-year-old girl in an SUV. They were both stopped at a red
light; he was in the lane immediately in front of her, with another
car in front of him. When the light turned green, this little twat hit
the gas and rammed into the back of my friend's car. In his rear-view
mirror, he saw that she was on her cell phone. At first, she denied
responsibility, attempting to claim that my friend had put his car
into reverse and backed up into her! Of course, she was found to be
100% at fault, and her insuarnce paid for a second set of repairs to
his car (he just got it back yesterday).
Then on Tuesday, my friend's wife was driving her minivan near Costco
when some old geezer, who was leaving the parking lot, pulled out from
the Costco driveway and clipped the front left side of her minivan.
His story to the police was that SHE was driving "too fast" and ran
into him. This geezer is a real Russell Weller in the making, and I
hope the DMV yanks his license before he kills somebody.
The alarming trend here, aside from the run of bad luck that is
affecting my friend's family, is the rampant refusal to accept
personal responsibility for one's fuckups. That 73-year-old woman from
my previous post ran over and killed another old woman in a church
driveway, left he scene, and then flatly denied having done it.
I'm scared. I really am.

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Brent P - 21 Sep 2007 15:42 GMT
> Then on Tuesday, my friend's wife was driving her minivan near Costco
> when some old geezer, who was leaving the parking lot, pulled out from
> the Costco driveway and clipped the front left side of her minivan.
> His story to the police was that SHE was driving "too fast" and ran
> into him. This geezer is a real Russell Weller in the making, and I
> hope the DMV yanks his license before he kills somebody.
He's just repeating what he has been taught. Any stupid move is
acceptable if it is done slowly. If a collision results it's because
someone was moving to fast avoid the collision. The cops use the charge
'failure to reduce speed to avoid a collision' as a catch all to blame
the victim of some other driver's idiotcy.
> The alarming trend here, aside from the run of bad luck that is
> affecting my friend's family, is the rampant refusal to accept
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>
> I'm scared. I really am.
But where is the root of this problem? Is it that individuals suddenly
stopped taking responsibility or have they been conditioned over decades
to believe that they aren't responsibile?
Sooner or later enough stuff like this will happen to change your way of
thinking to be more inline with mine :)
A little something to ponder, although probably still a bit too much, too
soon:
http://www.mises.org/story/2701
"The Rule of Law without the State"
I think the Xeer applies very well to driving in many respects.
Scott in SoCal - 22 Sep 2007 04:06 GMT
tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in
rec.autos.driving:
>But where is the root of this problem? Is it that individuals suddenly
>stopped taking responsibility or have they been conditioned over decades
>to believe that they aren't responsibile?
Good question. I know the school system, with its social promotion and
"no child left behind" PC bullshit, is training an entire generation
of kids to believe that nothing is ever their fault and they are
entitled to anything they want, but that old geezer was raised in a
VERY different way.
>Sooner or later enough stuff like this will happen to change your way of
>thinking to be more inline with mine :)
I hope not! You're a bit too cynical for my taste. :)

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Brent P - 22 Sep 2007 05:11 GMT
> tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in
> rec.autos.driving:
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> I hope not! You're a bit too cynical for my taste. :)
You're on the road. A few more cops inserting themselves into your life
unenvited and un-needed and a couple teenagers plowing in to your car and
you'll be there in no time at all ;)
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 21 Sep 2007 23:41 GMT
>The alarming trend here, aside from the run of bad luck that is
>affecting my friend's family, is the rampant refusal to accept
>personal responsibility for one's fuckups.
It's the liberal way; cf Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, et al.

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The Man Behind The Curtain - 22 Sep 2007 07:46 GMT
>> The alarming trend here, aside from the run of bad luck that is
>> affecting my friend's family, is the rampant refusal to accept
>> personal responsibility for one's fuckups.
>
> It's the liberal way; cf Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton,
George Bush, Michael Chertoff, Brownie (You're Doin' a Heckuva Job!),
Ronald Dumbsfeld, Idaho Senator Larry "You Wouldn't Arrest A Public
Servant Would You Officer?" Craig, etc.
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 21 Sep 2007 23:43 GMT
>I'm scared. I really am.
Not I; I find the entire scenario to be rather amusing. Fortunately by
the time this nation finishes flushing itself and it's citizenry down
the toilet, I'll be dead, but it'll be fun to watch the progress until
then!

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Brent P - 21 Sep 2007 23:47 GMT
>>I'm scared. I really am.
>
> Not I; I find the entire scenario to be rather amusing. Fortunately by
> the time this nation finishes flushing itself and it's citizenry down
> the toilet, I'll be dead, but it'll be fun to watch the progress until
> then!
You plan on dying in the next 5 years?
If we make it to 2012 we'll be lucky given the present accelerating
spiral.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 22 Sep 2007 16:28 GMT
>>>I'm scared. I really am.
>>
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>If we make it to 2012 we'll be lucky given the present accelerating
>spiral.
Nah, I think the old broad's got another half century or so left in
her.

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Brent P - 22 Sep 2007 17:18 GMT
>>>>I'm scared. I really am.
>>>
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> Nah, I think the old broad's got another half century or so left in
> her.
In name only.
MLOM - 23 Sep 2007 02:09 GMT
On Sep 22, 10:28 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver
(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
> >In article <s6i8f35g5k1tug4gn01vsn0qijqlptd...@4ax.com>, Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) wrote:
>
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> I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash.
> :http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a618...
That seems to be an optimistic estimate...but then I didn't think we'd
make it through Bush I and Slick Willie, let alone Junior.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 23 Sep 2007 05:44 GMT
>On Sep 22, 10:28 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver
>(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
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>That seems to be an optimistic estimate...but then I didn't think we'd
>make it through Bush I and Slick Willie, let alone Junior.
Agreed on all counts. :-)

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Scott in SoCal - 23 Sep 2007 04:04 GMT
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>If we make it to 2012 we'll be lucky given the present accelerating
>spiral.
Not to worry - the extraterrestrial visitors who built the pyramids
will return on December 24, 2011. I have that straight from Erich von
Daaniken himself.

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> tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in
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Will they release Elvis at that time? ;)
necromancer - 25 Sep 2007 00:14 GMT
MLOM:
> > tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in
> > rec.autos.driving:
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> Will they release Elvis at that time? ;)
How about Flight 19? will they be there, too?

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necromancer - 22 Sep 2007 16:38 GMT
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
> >I'm scared. I really am.
>
> Not I; I find the entire scenario to be rather amusing. Fortunately by
> the time this nation finishes flushing itself and it's citizenry down
> the toilet,
Well, right now, they are being flushed at the rate of 110 morons/day.
Now, if we could just get that rate to about 300 or so morons/day,
things will really be interesting...
> I'll be dead, but it'll be fun to watch the progress until then!
You're going to die in the next few weeks? ;)

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 22 Sep 2007 16:45 GMT
> Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
>> >
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>
>You're going to die in the next few weeks? ;)
Wow, between your and Brent's comments, I'm forcing myself to consider
the possibility I might be a bit too liberal in my estimate. :-/

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Nate Nagel - 22 Sep 2007 13:49 GMT
> A good friend of mine has had a string of REALLY bad luck lately.
>
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>
> I'm scared. I really am.
I think part of the problem is that if you admit fault, that seems to be
to lawyers like cutting yourself while swimming in a shark tank.
Instead of sending the message "I'm sorry I messed up, but I'm trying to
do the right thing" it sends the message "I'm a dumbass, please take me
for all I'm worth and then some." Nobody gets off easy. Heck, just
recently SWMBO dinged someone's car when the wind caught the door of the
car she was driving... I think they ended up getting her for about $500
otherwise they were going to go to the insurance company...
Of course, it could also be that nobody likes admitting they're wrong...
nate

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