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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / March 2008San Bernardino County denies Victorville $30M for I-15 interchange
http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/sanbag_5277___article.html/city_funding.html If you look at the comments, many people are complaining that SanBAG is up to its usual tricks, and that the Victor Valley is the Inland Empire's red-headed stepchild (which is true). One person makes the point that VV, perhaps, should have accepted SanBAG's stipulation that the city make up any funding shortfalls, but city spokesperson Yvonne Hester said that stipulation hasn't been placed on any other communities within SanBAG's sphere of influence. *sigh* We need more east-west through routes. I don't see the Ranchero Road project being finished in Hesperia anytime soon, either. Meanwhile, it takes fifteen minutes to drive just a couple miles on one of the two existing through roads (Bear Valley Road, going east from I-15).  SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol > We need more east-west through routes. I don't see the Ranchero Road > project being finished in Hesperia anytime soon, either. Meanwhile, it > takes fifteen minutes to drive just a couple miles on one of the two > existing through roads (Bear Valley Road, going east from I-15). I can't count. There are three: Main Street, Bear Valley Road and D Street/Happy Trails Highway/CA-18. SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol >>We need more east-west through routes. I don't see the Ranchero Road >>project being finished in Hesperia anytime soon, either. Meanwhile, it >>takes fifteen minutes to drive just a couple miles on one of the two >>existing through roads (Bear Valley Road, going east from I-15). >I can't count. There are three: Main Street, Bear Valley Road and >D Street/Happy Trails Highway/CA-18. CA 18 is SO SLOW though. I don't even bother with Main St. -- Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128 personal page: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ ** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! ** ** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ ** > CA 18 is SO SLOW though. I don't even bother with Main St. CA-18 is the fastest thoroughfare of the three. It's 60MPH in Apple Valley, except the extreme western end by the Mojave Narrows, and the only real bottleneck is usually right before the Narrows, at Apple Valley Road (where the signals aren't computerized for some reason). Main and Bear Valley are horrendously slow, because they're both overloaded. SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol >>CA 18 is SO SLOW though. I don't even bother with Main St. >CA-18 is the fastest thoroughfare of the three. And yet it's STILL SO SLOW! ;-) -- Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128 personal page: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ ** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! ** ** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ ** >>>CA 18 is SO SLOW though. I don't even bother with Main St. > >>CA-18 is the fastest thoroughfare of the three. > > And yet it's STILL SO SLOW! ;-) Only because you're an impatient Southern Californian. Those of us who haven't lived here for years don't expect to be able to drive 100 MPH and don't find CA-18 slow. :P ** SJ "jeez...." S SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol >>>>CA 18 is SO SLOW though. I don't even bother with Main St. >>>CA-18 is the fastest thoroughfare of the three. >> And yet it's STILL SO SLOW! ;-) >Only because you're an impatient Southern Californian. Those of us who haven't >lived here for years don't expect to be able to drive 100 MPH and don't find >CA-18 slow. :P Last I checked Victor Valley is still So Cal ;-) -- Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128 personal page: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ ** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! ** ** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ ** >>>>>CA 18 is SO SLOW though. I don't even bother with Main St. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Last I checked Victor Valley is still So Cal ;-) Yeah, but it's not in the impatient part. >>Last I checked Victor Valley is still So Cal ;-) > > Yeah, but it's not in the impatient part. That's right :D SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol > Last I checked Victor Valley is still So Cal ;-) I've been here only since 2003. Not even five years yet. I LIVE here, but I'm FROM Ohio. :) SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol >>>>CA 18 is SO SLOW though. I don't even bother with Main St. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >lived here for years don't expect to be able to drive 100 MPH and don't find >CA-18 slow. :P Just because you're used to it doesn't mean it isn't SLOW!! > "Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote > > We need more east-west through routes. I don't see the Ranchero Road > project being finished in Hesperia anytime soon, either. Meanwhile, it > takes fifteen minutes to drive just a couple miles on one of the two > existing through roads (Bear Valley Road, going east from I-15). What's the Ranchero Rd. project: adding an I-15 interchange, or building an overpass over the railroad? I'm also looking forward to the eventual upgrade of the roads on the other side of I-15, extending Air Expwy over to I-15 and getting rid of that two-lane piece near old US-66. I got stuck behind a gravel truck going 15mph last night. And getting rid of the insane 4-way stop on US-395 would be nice. SignatureCiao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com > What's the Ranchero Rd. project: adding an I-15 interchange, or building an > overpass over the railroad? Both. Underpass, actually, and a freeway exit. > I'm also looking forward to the eventual upgrade of the roads on the other > side of I-15, extending Air Expwy over to I-15 and getting rid of that > two-lane piece near old US-66. I got stuck behind a gravel truck going 15mph > last night. And getting rid of the insane 4-way stop on US-395 would be > nice. At Air Expressway? Yeah, I'm up there every weeknight, and it's a royal pain in the a.s. I'm shuttling kids around all the time up there. My wife is an Adelanto teacher, and she's out there every weeknight too. I'd go further and say that maybe we should somehow extend Air Expressway *past* the freeway out to Stoddard Wells and maybe link it to the proposed Apple Valley/Falchion Road extension that will connect to the freeway, but maybe I'm just crazy. :) SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol > "Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote > > I'd go further and say that maybe we should somehow extend Air Expressway > *past* the freeway out to Stoddard Wells and maybe link it to the proposed > Apple Valley/Falchion Road extension that will connect to the freeway, but > maybe I'm just crazy. :) Well, that's pretty much the idea for the eastern end of the High Desert Corridor. Faigin describes the route (in his SR138 entry) as going across south of the Apple Valley Airport, then turning south and coming into the existing 18 around Joshua Road. SignatureCiao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com >>And getting rid of the insane 4-way stop on US-395 would be nice. >At Air Expressway? Yeah, I'm up there every weeknight, and it's a royal >pain in the a.s. I'm shuttling kids around all the time up there. My wife is >an Adelanto teacher, and she's out there every weeknight too. I bet its only purpose is revenue. After all, Adelanto PD is just a block down from there. -- Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128 personal page: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ ** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! ** ** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ ** > I bet its only purpose is revenue. After all, Adelanto PD is just a block > down from there. It's horrible. Especially if you're coming off Jonathan Street, which I always do. Can't see cars turning on to eastbound Air Expressway, a few dozen feet to the west of Jonathan, if there are cars stopped at the 395 intersection. They really need to put a traffic light there. SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol |
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