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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / September 2008Why "E-220"?
Apparently, the High Desert Corridor, or at least that portion east of US-395 running from Adelanto across Victorville into Apple Valley, has been designated by the US Government as a high priority program, so it may actually get built in the forseeable future. Most of the stuff on the web about it refers to this road as "E-220". One map of the future plans for the Southern California Logistics Airport (former George AFB) even shows the proposed road as E-220 inside an Interstate shield, although I expect that's meaningless. Does anyone know what sort of designation "E-220" is? I don't think it's really a route number, as it is expected that the CA-18 designation will be moved to this road. I'm also a bit puzzled why this piece of the HDC should get priority over the piece connecting CA-14 in Palmdale to I-15 in Victorville, since the latter would bypass the piece of CA-138 that has a dreadful safety record, and that carries a lot of truck traffic headed from the San Joaquin Valley toward Arizona. The eastern part of E-220 looks to me like it would just help local traffic, with very little implication outside its area.  SignatureCiao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com > Apparently, the High Desert Corridor, or at least that portion east of > US-395 running from Adelanto across Victorville into Apple Valley, has been > designated by the US Government as a high priority program, so it may > actually get built in the forseeable future. Our esteemed County government will screw that up, I'm sure. > proposed road as E-220 inside an Interstate shield, although I expect that's > meaningless. Does anyone know what sort of designation "E-220" is? I don't > think it's really a route number, as it is expected that the CA-18 > designation will be moved to this road. Right. > I'm also a bit puzzled why this piece of the HDC should get priority over > the piece connecting CA-14 in Palmdale to I-15 in Victorville, since the > latter would bypass the piece of CA-138 that has a dreadful safety record, Yeah, I keep *hearing* that. But they've redone the 138 between the Los Angeles County line and Palmdale. Much of it is brand-new four-lane blacktop. > and that carries a lot of truck traffic headed from the San Joaquin Valley > toward Arizona. The eastern part of E-220 looks to me like it would just > help local traffic, with very little implication outside its area. Well, it would still be nice if we got it. We have serious traffic problems in certain places as it is, due to a lack of decent east-west thoroughfares. SignatureSteve Sobol / Victorville, CA, USA It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room. > "Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote > > Yeah, I keep *hearing* that. But they've redone the 138 between the Los > Angeles County line and Palmdale. Much of it is brand-new four-lane > blacktop. Actually, I just drove 138 and 18 today, and while there's more 4-laning than there used to be, they have a long way to go. It's all two lanes east of 165th until you get to US-395 on 18, or until you get to route 2 on 138. That said, there's really nothing out there, so 4-laning the rest of it couldn't be easier. When they do get around to it, it will solve most of the safety problems. The new 4-lane parts are reeeeally wiiiide, with a wide turn lane down the middle. The main benefit of the Palmdale part of the proposed HDC would be a direct connection to 14 north of downtown--you can see that pretty much all of the ROW has been set aside along Ave P-8. But if they can get by with only 4-laning 138 and 18, I wonder if they'll really do that part, or just build the bit that services the SCLA and Apple Valley. Meantime, I'll stick to my preferred route between Palmdale and Adelanto, which is Palmdale Blvd. and El Mirage Road. Always deserted once you get out of town. SignatureCiao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com >> "Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > than there used to be, they have a long way to go. It's all two lanes east > of 165th until you get to US-395 on 18, or until you get to route 2 on 138. ?? I distinctly remember much of it being four lanes between Littlerock and the county line. But I could be wrong. > Meantime, I'll stick to my preferred route between Palmdale and Adelanto, > which is Palmdale Blvd. and El Mirage Road. Always deserted once you get out > of town. Yes. I've done it both ways, but I prefer 138. 138 is faster. SignatureSteve Sobol / Victorville, CA, USA It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room. >Apparently, the High Desert Corridor, or at least that portion east of >US-395 running from Adelanto across Victorville into Apple Valley, has been [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >think it's really a route number, as it is expected that the CA-18 >designation will be moved to this road. I remember Select Arterial 680 in San Diego, and that became CA 56, so I don't really know where they come up with these numbers (although admittedly the 680 -> 56 connection was less direct, more of a "Son of 680" thing). >I'm also a bit puzzled why this piece of the HDC should get priority over >the piece connecting CA-14 in Palmdale to I-15 in Victorville, since the >latter would bypass the piece of CA-138 that has a dreadful safety record, >and that carries a lot of truck traffic headed from the San Joaquin Valley >toward Arizona. The eastern part of E-220 looks to me like it would just >help local traffic, with very little implication outside its area. I'm in the believe it when I see it category. There has been very little transportation work in the High Desert and IMHO the Victor Valley needs no additional hot air. :-D -- Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128 personal page: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ ** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! ** ** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ ** > I'm in the believe it when I see it category. There has been very little > transportation work in the High Desert and IMHO the Victor Valley needs no > additional hot air. :-D Over 100 in Phelan (Baldy Mesa) yesterday, right up against the mountains, at 4000 feet. Was probably hotter near my house in Victorville. SignatureSteve Sobol / Victorville, CA, USA It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room. |
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