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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / April 2005"For Sale" signs on cars
I live on a stree where we go through weekends when cars may be parked for several days with for sale signs on them. We used to be able to call parking enforcement and get them ticketed. However, the last time I tried, I was told that the police could no longer enforce this section of the vehicle code because of a recent court case in Passadena. Does anyone have any details on this and if there are any plans to revise the law to be enforcable? Thanks. Scott Peterson -- I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose. 352/611 > I live on a stree where we go through weekends when cars may be > parked for several days with for sale signs on them. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Scott Peterson I would suspect if those cars were to get vandalized while parked there, then sellers would stop parking them there. Not that someone should do that of course. > > I live on a stree where we go through weekends when cars may be > > parked for several days with for sale signs on them. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Not that someone should do that of course. People only do this on streets with a lot of traffic, like San Gabriel Blvd. Why do you and Scott P care? He didn't answer, maybe you will...  SignatureCheers, Bev ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (On going to war over religion:) "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend." -- Rich Jeni >People only do this on streets with a lot of traffic, like San Gabriel >Blvd. Why do you and Scott P care? He didn't answer, maybe you will... I do live on a street with lots of traffic and parking is limited. When they park in front of my house I can't park there. ...and I'm not complaining or claiming any special priority to park there. I just hate coming home to find all the spots filled with cars that are going to be there for 3 or 4 days, or find strangers standing (and eating and smoking and littering) in my yard looking over the cars and, for all I know, casing the house. Then I've got to park in front of someone elses house to leave room for guests in my driveway or make anyone visiting me have to walk. When I first moved here, every weekend we'd just about have a car lot along the street. There'd be 10 or 15 cars there every weekend. For years now my neighbors and I have been able to keep it clear by getting cars ticketed. Obviously people learned which means it was the same people doing it, not just casual sellers. Anyway, right now all I'm doing is asking about the changes in the case law on this. Scott Peterson -- "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." --H. L. Mencken 18/611 >I would suspect if those cars were to get vandalized while parked >there, then sellers would stop parking them there. > >Not that someone should do that of course. Nah. Save that kind of stuff for when people are really doing something bad. If I was to think of something along those lines, I'd take off the rear plate and then call and complain about an unlicensed car parked there. That's a slam-dunk ticket and a nice charge from the DMV for a replacement. If I really wanted to be nasty, after it's ticketed I'd put the plate back and pull the ticket. They wouldn't know for weeks or months that they even got the ticket and that it was building up penalties. Scott Peterson -- "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." --H. L. Mencken 18/611 >> I live on a stree where we go through weekends when cars may be >> parked for several days with for sale signs on them. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Not that someone should do that of course. That would be illegal. The proper way to handle it is to call up the phone number listed n the For Sale sign and say "Hey, a.shole! Get your f.cking hunk of junk off of my street!" If it's not gone by midnight, repeat. If it's still not gone by 3 AM, re-repeat. If it's still there the next morning, put that number into your Demon Dialer. SignatureWhen are you people going to wake up to the fact that rebates are a SCAM? > That would be illegal. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > not gone by 3 AM, re-repeat. If it's still there the next morning, put > that number into your Demon Dialer. You think that's legal? >> That would be illegal. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >You think that's legal? It was a joke. BTW, the irony of this post coming from "Admiral Crunch" is duly noted. (For those who don't know, "Captain Crunch" (who has apparently been promoted in the intervening years) was the hacker and phone phreak whose computer system served as the model for Matthew Broderick's system in the movie War Games.) SignatureWhen are you people going to wake up to the fact that rebates are a SCAM? > (For those who don't know, "Captain Crunch" (who has apparently been > promoted in the intervening years) was the hacker and phone phreak > whose computer system served as the model for Matthew Broderick's > system in the movie War Games.) AIUI, he didn't use a computer at all, but a whistle from a box of Cap'n Crunch cereal. He had some trick for blowing it at 2600 Hz. > > (For those who don't know, "Captain Crunch" (who has apparently been > > promoted in the intervening years) was the hacker and phone phreak [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > AIUI, he didn't use a computer at all, but a whistle from a box of > Cap'n Crunch cereal. He had some trick for blowing it at 2600 Hz. http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/ SignatureCheers, Bev -------------------------------------------- There is no such thing as a foolproof device because fools are so ingenious. > I live on a stree where we go through weekends when cars may be > parked for several days with for sale signs on them. Aren't you on death row at San Quentin now? How'd you get net access? > > I live on a stree where we go through weekends when cars may be > > parked for several days with for sale signs on them. > > Aren't you on death row at San Quentin now? How'd you get net access? His cell mate, Bubba, is the cell block trustee. > "Scott Peterson" <scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Does anyone have any details on this and if there are any plans to > revise the law to be enforcable? What I don't understand is why anyone would care. What's the difference between a parked car and a parked car with a one-square-foot sign in the window? And a car that's up for sale is likely to be kept cleaner than one that isn't. Is it really more important that your tender aesthetic sensibilities not be tweaked than that someone take advantage of free advertising to sell his car? On San Vicente Blvd. in Santa Monica, they still have signs up banning this practice. There must be fifty ugly signs along the street prohibiting the occasional sign in a car window. I'm glad I don't live in that snooty neighborhood. SignatureCiao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com >What I don't understand is why anyone would care. What's the difference >between a parked car and a parked car with a one-square-foot sign in the >window? And a car that's up for sale is likely to be kept cleaner than one >that isn't. Is it really more important that your tender aesthetic >sensibilities not be tweaked than that someone take advantage of free >advertising to sell his car? I didn't make up the vehicle code section, the state did. I believe part of the reason was to require that if you want to have signage on your car of any kind, you're supposed to have commercial plates. My complaint is that with these cars parked there illegally there are not enough places for people with legitimate reasons for being there. We're not talking about people parked for an hour or so, I'm talking about cars left there for 3 or 4 days at a time. >On San Vicente Blvd. in Santa Monica, they still have signs up banning this >practice. There must be fifty ugly signs along the street prohibiting the >occasional sign in a car window. I'm glad I don't live in that snooty >neighborhood. I don't disagree. But I can only wonder how bad the problem was that made them do that. Like I said earlier, I don't want a car lot in my front yard either. There are business districts for that and there are swap meets and other places where people wanting to sell cars can go. Scott Peterson -- [If you can't hear me, it's because I'm in parenthises] 292/611 > "Scott Peterson" <scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com> wrote >>On San Vicente Blvd. in Santa Monica, they still have signs up banning >>this [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > front yard either. There are business districts for that and there are > swap meets and other places where people wanting to sell cars can go. In this particular case, there is clearly no parking problem. It's a broad residential street with very large houses, garages and yards, and comparatively few cars ever parked on the street. It seems clear to me that there never was a "problem" with people selling their cars, other than the fact that other people have some strange aversion to seeing an occasional For Sale sign, as though actually selling a car, instead of just trading it in at the dealership, was simply too declasse for such a ritzy neighborhood. SignatureCiao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com > > "Scott Peterson" <scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com> wrote > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com instead of bitching about the for sale sign, bitch about the overnight parking. depending on the city ordinance it might take a couple of days, but it will get a ticket if they leave it there long enough. Of course if you and your neighbors are pissed enough, just get some of those 2 hour parking signs put up! >instead of bitching about the for sale sign, bitch about the overnight >parking. depending on the city ordinance it might take a couple of days, but >it will get a ticket if they leave it there long enough. No ordinance for that. You can't complain until 72 hours has passed complain and only 72 hours after it's marked can the vehicle be towed. So, if you can get them to come out on day 3, it's going to be there for 6 days before it's towed. Scott Peterson -- A lottery is a tax on people who don't understand probability. 3/611 > >instead of bitching about the for sale sign, bitch about the overnight > >parking. depending on the city ordinance it might take a couple of days, but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Scott Peterson City ordinance. Not every city is the same. > >instead of bitching about the for sale sign, bitch about the overnight > >parking. depending on the city ordinance it might take a couple of days, but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > So, if you can get them to come out on day 3, it's going to be there > for 6 days before it's towed. Got one of those little tools for removing valve cores? Remember to do both curbside tires. SignatureCheers, Bev -------------------------------------------------------------- "Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag them down to your level. It's cheaper." -- Quentin Crisp 1908 - 1999 |
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