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Michael Ejercito - 18 Jul 2005 06:24 GMT
  Has anyone noticed signs on this freeway identifying it as the 101?

Michael
Carl Rogers - 18 Jul 2005 17:38 GMT
Hi Michael,

Can't say that I have.  However, my experience is limited to driving the
`101/Santa Ana Freeway` only, so none of its (street-crossing) onramps were
checked out.

Cheers,

Carl Rogers
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>    Has anyone noticed signs on this freeway identifying it as the 101?
>
>  Michael
Rudy Canoza - 18 Jul 2005 17:48 GMT
>    Has anyone noticed signs on this freeway identifying it as the 101?

I don't think it has been identified as the 101 since
the advent of the Interstate highway system.  See this
page:  http://www.ocalmanac.com/History/hi01h.htm.  It
indicates that when the Santa Ana freeway first opened,
it was indeed designated as the 101.

I'm actually not certain what the short stretch of
freeway running from the 101/10 separation (just east
of the L.A. river) and the junction with the 5/10/60
interchange is called.

Here's a page with some history of 101:
http://www.gbcnet.com/ushighways/US101/index.html
Gary E. Ansok - 18 Jul 2005 18:51 GMT
>>    Has anyone noticed signs on this freeway identifying it as the 101?
>
>I'm actually not certain what the short stretch of
>freeway running from the 101/10 separation (just east
>of the L.A. river) and the junction with the 5/10/60
>interchange is called.

When the SoCal callboxes used letters instead of numbers to identify
the route, I believe that the "SA" prefix was used from the
Four-Level (101/110) south.  The same interchange was also
where the "PA" (Pasadena) callboxes switched to "HA" (Harbor).

However, I have always thought of the Santa Ana Freeway as
beginning at the 101/10 split.

Wonder if I can remember all the prefixes:

AN - Antelope Valley (14)
CO - Corona (71)
FO - Foothill (210)
GL - Glendale (2)
GS - Golden State (5)
HA - Harbor (110)
HO - Hollywood (170/101)
LB - Long Beach (710)
LC - La Cienega
MA - Marina (90)
OR - Orange (210/57)
PA - Pasadena (110)
PO - Pomona (60)
SA - Santa Ana (101/5)
SB - San Bernardino (10)
SD - San Diego (405/5)
SG - San Gabriel River (605)
SM - Santa Monica (10)
SV - Simi Valley (118)
TI - Terminal Island (47/103)
VE - Ventura (101/134)

Were there any call boxes on the 126 at this time?

Didn't get down to Orange County as much, so I'm not as sure of the
prefixes there.

AR - Artesia (91)
CM - Costa Mesa (55)
GG - Garden Grove (22)
LA - Laguna (133)
RI - Riverside (91)

Did I miss any?  The newer freeways, like the 105, never had the
letter-based callbox IDs, and it was, I think, limited to LA and
Orange counties, and to freeways only.  The numbering was pretty
much as it is now -- 10 times the postmile number (mileage from
the south/west route end or county line).

Gary
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Larry Scholnick - 21 Jul 2005 16:31 GMT
> When the SoCal callboxes used letters instead of numbers to identify
> the route, I believe that the "SA" prefix was used from the
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> much as it is now -- 10 times the postmile number (mileage from
> the south/west route end or county line).

At a point in time when Orange County was already using numeric prefixes but
Los Angeles County was still using alphabetic prefixes, I had occasion to
drive the western end of CA-22 into Long Beach; at the L.A. county line, the
Call Box numbers indeed switched from "22-" to "GG-".  I took particular
note of this because I had never been sure that the western stub of CA-22
(west of I-405) was actually named the Garden Grove Freeway as the main
section east of I-405 is; that call box prefix convinced me that it was.

My recollection of the boundary between the Hollywood Freeway vs. the Santa
Ana Freeway is that it was not at any of the interchanges.  Instead, it was
at a seemingly arbitrary location like Broadway (just east of CA-110).
Certainly the north-south portion south of I-10 (the northern one) has
always been part of the Santa Ana Freeway; it's the east-west portion
between CA-110 and I-10 (the northern one) that is at issue.

I use the phrase "I-10 (the northern one)" to refer to the discontinuous
portion of I-10 between I-5 and US-101.  Westbound it is signed as US-101
while eastbound it is signed as I-10.  As defined in:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=shc&group=00001-01000&file
=300-635

Route 10 is from:
(a) Route 1 in Santa Monica to Route 5 near Seventh Street in Los Angeles.
(b) Route 101 near Mission Road in Los Angeles to the Arizona state line at
the Colorado River via the vicinity of Monterey Park, Pomona, Colton, Indio,
and Chiriaco Summit and via Blythe.
Michael Ejercito - 23 Jul 2005 16:54 GMT
> > When the SoCal callboxes used letters instead of numbers to identify
> > the route, I believe that the "SA" prefix was used from the
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> (west of I-405) was actually named the Garden Grove Freeway as the main
> section east of I-405 is; that call box prefix convinced me that it was.

  There is a sign on the Srtudebaker Road onramp identifiying that
section of the road as Garden Grove Freeway.

Michael
John David Galt - 22 Jul 2005 23:00 GMT
>    Has anyone noticed signs on this freeway identifying it as the 101?

Only on the part that *is* US 101 -- between the west end of the San
Bernardino Freeway and the junction with I-5.  Not everybody knows
that that section is part of the Santa Ana Freeway, but it is.
 
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