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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / November 2006

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New Exit Numbering Exception

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larry_scholnick@yahoo.com - 08 Nov 2006 19:33 GMT
Until now, the exit numbering rules in California meant that an exit
number without a letter suffix meant that there was only one exit in
that same mile, and exits with a letter suffix (A, B, C) were multiple
exit in the same mile.

That is, until Caltrans District 1 (North Coast) decided that they
wanted to have both Exit 667 and Exit 667 A instead of Exit 667 A and
Exit 667 B on southbound US-101.  Why did they request that Exit 667 B
be reassigned Exit 667?  Because there was only one exit in that mile
on the northbound side and it was (of course) Exit 667; they felt that
it was important that the exit for Redcrest have the exact same number
in both directions.

Of course, this is in stark contrast to District 12 (Orange County)
where the exit for SR-133 North is Exit 95 from northbound I-5, but is
Exit 96 B from southbound I-5.

Do other states' exit numbering schemes allow for both unsuffixed (such
as Exit 667) and suffixed exits (such as Exit 667 A) for the same
number?  For those that do allow this nonsense, which comes first?
That is, if you are traveling in an ascending-numbered direction, does
the unsuffixed exit precede or follow the suffixed exit(s)?
My Land of Misery - 08 Nov 2006 19:42 GMT
larry_scholn...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Until now, the exit numbering rules in California meant that an exit
> number without a letter suffix meant that there was only one exit in
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> That is, if you are traveling in an ascending-numbered direction, does
> the unsuffixed exit precede or follow the suffixed exit(s)?

It happens on occasion in Missouri.  I-70 Exit 128 is BL 70 in
Columbia, and US 63 is Exit 128A.  Usually the unsuffixed exit precedes
the suffixed one.

There's also an anomaly in St. Louis: two exits signed 249A.  The
westernmost one is for Madison Avenue from westbound I-70, and next one
is for 10th Street from eastbound I-70.  B is skipped, and C is EB for
Broadway.  D is an express-lane exit for Broadway.  I suspect the
skipped B is a sign error and should be for 10th Street.  There used to
be two exits numbered 1C from eastbound I-255 to Lemay Ferry Road: one
combined with A-B to I-55 and the other further east.  The eastern one
was recently re-signed 1D.
mkeen - 10 Nov 2006 15:25 GMT
> larry_scholn...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > Do other states' exit numbering schemes allow for both unsuffixed (such
> > as Exit 667) and suffixed exits (such as Exit 667 A) for the same
> > number?  For those that do allow this nonsense, which comes first?
> > That is, if you are traveling in an ascending-numbered direction, does
> > the unsuffixed exit precede or follow the suffixed exit(s)?

The New York State Thruway (which does not use mileage based exit
numbers) has some odd numbering.  Northbound drivers encounter Exit 21
at Mile 113.8, Exit 21B at Mile 124.5, and then Exit 21A at Mile 133.6.
There are several examples of suffixed exits following unsuffixed
exits on this road.  The suffixed exits were mostly added after the
road was built and the numbering scheme was already in place.  Details
are at http://www.upstatenyroads.com/i87_exit_listing.htm

I-80 in New Jersey has exits which are split and suffixed in one
direction but unsuffixed in the other direction.  Exits 62 (Garden
State Parkway) and 56 (Squirrelwood Road) are examples.

Michael Keen
Ringwood, NJ
David J. Grabiner - 11 Nov 2006 04:50 GMT
> Do other states' exit numbering schemes allow for both unsuffixed (such
> as Exit 667) and suffixed exits (such as Exit 667 A) for the same
> number?  For those that do allow this nonsense, which comes first?
> That is, if you are traveling in an ascending-numbered direction, does
> the unsuffixed exit precede or follow the suffixed exit(s)?

If the exits are sequentially numbered rather than numbered by mileage,
this may become necessary.  For example, on the New Jersey Turnpike,
there are exits 7A, 8A, and 13A.  (I suppose they could have split 7
into 7A and 7B rather than into 7 and 7A when the new interchange was
built.)

The New Jersey Turnpike also has another example.  I-78 east of the
turnpike becomes a turnpike spur with exits 14A, 14B, 14C; I-78 west of
the turnpike is exit 14.  (However, this doesn't lead to confusion, as
you get off the main line at the same place for all four exits 14.)

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