<< Wrong. The MkIV's debuted in late 99 as a 99.5 model. I had an installer
with a 99.5 GTI VR6. >>
Actually, we were both wrong. The MKIV debuted at the end of 1998 with the MKIV
Jetta. The 1.8T was introduced to Audi in 1997, and found it's way down to VW
for 2000 model year cars. BTW, I own a 2002 GTi myself. This still does not
change the fact that 93' GTis were not sold with a VR6. And VWoA has never
badged a VR6 2-door as anything but a GTi. In Europe, it's sold as a Golf VR6,
but in North America, they always get rebadged as GTis.
> Actually, we were both wrong. The MKIV debuted at the end of 1998 with the MKIV
> Jetta.
But some of the MkIII's were sold as 99's. I've tons of systems in 99 Jetta
and Golf/GTIIII's.
>The 1.8T was introduced to Audi in 1997, and found it's way down to VW
> for 2000 model year cars. BTW, I own a 2002 GTi myself. This still does not
> change the fact that 93' GTis were not sold with a VR6. And VWoA has never
> badged a VR6 2-door as anything but a GTi. In Europe, it's sold as a Golf VR6,
> but in North America, they always get rebadged as GTis.
I never argued otherwise, only the years of manufacture.
Paul Vina
Steve Grauman - 14 Oct 2003 03:33 GMT
<< But some of the MkIII's were sold as 99's. I've tons of systems in 99 Jetta
and Golf/GTIIII's. >>
According to my dealer, the MKIII stopped being produced by the factory
sometime in early to mid 1998. The MKIV took over from there, some got badged
as 98s, most got badged 99s. There was some kind of delay in late-MKIII
shipment, and I guess some of the cars ended up getting called 99' models. Oh
well. He also says that VW introduced the VR6 in the Corrado in *very* late 93'
or early 94' for the Corrado SLC, but that it didn't find it's way into a GTi
untill 95 or 96.
Paul Vina - 14 Oct 2003 03:46 GMT
Yeah, I could never understand why VW took so damned long to put the VR6 in
the Golf platform.
Paul Vina
> << But some of the MkIII's were sold as 99's. I've tons of systems in 99 Jetta
> and Golf/GTIIII's. >>
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> or early 94' for the Corrado SLC, but that it didn't find it's way into a GTi
> untill 95 or 96.
Steve Grauman - 14 Oct 2003 20:14 GMT
<< Yeah, I could never understand why VW took so damned long to put the VR6 in
the Golf platform. >>
Mostly for economy reasons I'd guess. The Golf, even in GTi trim was geared for
a lower price bracket. The Corrado was designed to be the more expensive car
from day 1, so it made sense to equip it with the more expensive VR6 engine.
But VW was phasing out the supercharged G60 motor, and they needed something to
fill in the gap between the far underpowered Golf III 2.0 and the Corrado VR6.
The Golf VR6 fit the bill perfectly. It had all of the power of the Corrado,
but lacked the more advanced suspension and luxury items that made the Corrado
a more expensive vehicle.