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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / February 2004

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Dead Bose stereo

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Seth Ness - 11 Nov 2003 00:53 GMT
Hi,

I have a '95 maxima with bose audio system. yesterday, the sound
suddenly went dead, with no warning.

The system has power as the LCD is on and the casette winds and CD
spins but no sound comes out.

How can i diagnose what could cause this? can bad Amps possibly cause
this sudden death in all speakers at once?

seth
ronm - 11 Nov 2003 01:32 GMT
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You can check for broken wires if you can get the unit out. But unless
you have the right test Equip. thats about as far as you can get. there
could be a crack in some surface mounted items on board or the Amp. is
dead. You just need some place that can really find the problem.
ronm
Pug Fugley - 11 Nov 2003 02:33 GMT
You know what they say..the only good Bose is a dead Bose. But seriously,
you'll probably need to drop it off at a place that specializes in such a
thing.

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> seth
Paul Vina - 11 Nov 2003 03:28 GMT
Have you checked the fuses for the Bose amps?

Paul Vina

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> seth
Seth Ness - 11 Nov 2003 13:15 GMT
Thanks for the advice, and I will check the fuses, but before I take
or ship the head unit somewhere, is there any way I can distinguish
between a problem internal to the headunit, or an external problem
with the fuses, relays, amps or speaker?

seth
David Geesaman - 11 Nov 2003 13:54 GMT
I'm not an electrical expert, but if the fuses and relays look good I would
try taking the headunit out of the dash but leaving the wiring connected.
(Carefully) then turn on the ignition and stereo to see if there is power to
the outputs using a multimeter.  I'll bet someone with more stereo
experience knows a simpler way.  If you haven't taken the dash out before,
you definitely want to find the directions first.  It's not hard if you know
what to expect.

I believe there are two amplifiers for the Bose speakers: one for the front
speakers somewhere and one for the rear, mounted in the rear deck.  These
amps sometimes go bad, but since they're separate I would expect that they
wouldn't fail at the same time (no sound at all)

Dave

> Thanks for the advice, and I will check the fuses, but before I take
> or ship the head unit somewhere, is there any way I can distinguish
> between a problem internal to the headunit, or an external problem
> with the fuses, relays, amps or speaker?
>
> seth
bosenose@maxima.com - 11 Nov 2003 23:14 GMT
Had mine do the same thing. Turned out to de a defective signal being
sent from the head unit to the relay that operates the amps.

Check to see if you hear a click when you turn on the radio. I had to
wire the relay to operate when I turned on the ignition. The head unit
no longer sent  the signal. Locate the relay (mine was behind the driver
wheel well knick panel) and give it some power.

> Thanks for the advice, and I will check the fuses, but before I take
> or ship the head unit somewhere, is there any way I can distinguish
> between a problem internal to the headunit, or an external problem
> with the fuses, relays, amps or speaker?
>
> seth
Stephen Narayan - 15 Nov 2003 06:29 GMT
>Thanks for the advice, and I will check the fuses, but before I take
>or ship the head unit somewhere, is there any way I can distinguish
>between a problem internal to the headunit, or an external problem
>with the fuses, relays, amps or speaker?
>
>seth

Sounds to me like your Bose system turn on relay may be faulty or the
trigger for it from the headunit went south.

The relay turns on multiple amplifiers for your system.

Stephen Narayan | IASCA Pro Street 1-600 | IASCA Certified Judge 2003
Audio Perfection | audioperfection@sympatico.ca
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David Geesaman - 11 Nov 2003 12:42 GMT
I have a working Bose from my 97 that I pulled at 80k.  If you think yours
is really dead, you can have it for very cheap.  Or if you'd like to go
non-Bose aftermarket, you can have an extra DIN panel available if you buy a
normal DIN headunit with a Scosche adapter.

Dave

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Jay - 17 Nov 2003 22:10 GMT
My 1993 GXE Bose unit did the same thing.  Local shop cold sodered the
thing for $75.00.  Worked great, sold the car.

-jjj
CRWLR - 17 Nov 2003 22:27 GMT
They didn't cold solder anything. Cold solder joints are by definition
defective.

> My 1993 GXE Bose unit did the same thing.  Local shop cold sodered the
> thing for $75.00.  Worked great, sold the car.
>
> -jjj
MCDC Cozart - 23 Feb 2004 03:29 GMT
Seth,
   I had a '97 that did exactly the same thing.  Power would come on,
antenna would raise and the LED would come on but no sound.  I checked all
fuses and even checked the relay under the driver kick panel but eventually
sent it to carstereohelp http://carstereohelp.com/nissan.htm).  There was a
defective board of some sort that was replaced for a little under $100.
Once I got it back it was good as new.  Much cheaper than buying a used one
off eBay and definately a lot cheaper than replacing with a non-oem head
unit and having to re-wire and re-speaker the whole car.  Good luck.

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Peter Klein - 27 Feb 2004 23:21 GMT
There are several companies who make replacement boards for defunct ones for
a Bose system. Any dealer who carries AAMP accessories can probably get one.
Any aftermarket four ohm (not Bose) set of components would smoke the Bose
system. The best way to fix a deaBose system is to remove it and throw it
away. ACD head unit fed into a four channel amp feeding four coaxial four
ohm speakers will sound better and last much longer.

> Seth,
>     I had a '97 that did exactly the same thing.  Power would come on,
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Kid E. Poole - 29 Feb 2004 14:58 GMT
> Any aftermarket four ohm (not Bose) set of components would smoke the Bose
> system.

The low-impedance Bose speakers might smoke an
aftermarket amp. Four-ohm aftermarket speakers
are unlikely to deliver full power or proper
frequency reponse with the Bose amp, but how
exactly would they "smoke" it? Bose amps can
easily drive 4-ohm speakers.
 
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