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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / February 2004Alarm reccomendations?
As you might have read, I got ripped off a couple of nights ago: See, "I Got Ripped Off" post. If I put another system in I want to protect it and along with other measures like full coverage insurance, I want to install an alarm. It is a 1991 Integra. I don't want anything fancy like remote start. I would want trunk and hood sensors I think. I am a newbie with alarms. What should I look for? I am trying to think like a crook now to protect myself. What stops them from quickly popping the hood and cutting the battery cable? Are there alarms that have there own battery to make it impossible to shut off? Do professional thieves have electronic gadgets that disable alarms? If so are there alarms that are not controlled by an electronic remote and have a hidden manual switch. I think it would be good to have and alarm with a seperate power supply and that kills the ignition on break in. If thieves use electronic remotes to bypass an alarm then I would think a hidden activate-deactivate-reset switch, in the car, would be the best. I am going to learn about alarms and thanks for any advice. SHRED© wrote: > As you might have read, I got ripped off a couple of nights ago: > > See, "I Got Ripped Off" post. Viper, Python, Sidewinder. Really, the alarm doesn't matter. I recommend DEI products because they are by far the most reliable I've ever worked with. But what makes the difference in protection is the quality of the install, and that means the quality of the installer. A good installer will recommend the necessary security upgrades to provide the maximum possible deterrence. And then that last word - deterrence. You have to realize no alarm will ever prevent your car or stuff from getting jacked. It will deter it. It will slow down a dedicated theif, or draw too much attention to make it worth your time. A good deterrent might also be a few bullet holes in the side of the car. I'd think twice...  Signaturethelizman "I didn't steal the FAQ either" hammerattack@teamrocs.com teamROCS Car Audio Forums http://www.teamrocs.com/caraudio/ teamROCS Car Audio News http://www.teamrocs.com/news/ "It's about the music, stupid" This post is Copyright (C) 2004. Reproduction of its content anywhere other than usenet without the express written permission of the author is forbidden. anything from DEI visit www.directed.com strictly based on quality, quantity of dealers, and support.... Signaturefhlh..... this post was intended for usenet, if you are reading this post on a webforum it is because someone has STOLEN it to use as content to draw traffic to his site... please acquire a proper newsreader if you want to access rec.audio.car and rethink your patronage of said site... THIS SIG WAS STOLEN FROM SANCHO... f.ck it! > As you might have read, I got ripped off a couple of nights ago: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I am going to learn about alarms and thanks for any advice. > I am trying to think like a crook now to protect myself. What stops them > from quickly popping the hood and cutting the battery cable? > > Are there alarms that have there own battery to make it impossible to shut > off? Yes there is, called battery back ups. Kinda works like a UPS does for a computer. When power is cut from the main source, the battery back up kicks in providing power for the system to still stay active. > Do professional thieves have electronic gadgets that disable alarms? If so > are there alarms that are not controlled by an electronic remote and have a > hidden manual switch. Now a days, this isn't an issue. Most manufacturers use a "code hopping" technology which generates a new code each time the transmitter is used. There are about 1 million codes to go through, so I don't see any device that can copy that, unless I am mistaken? > I think it would be good to have and alarm with a seperate power supply and > that kills the ignition on break in. If thieves use electronic remotes to > bypass an alarm then I would think a hidden activate-deactivate-reset > switch, in the car, would be the best. I don't hear about many cars being stolen these days, hoever I think your car would be one of em due the age and type (which would be stripped for parts). But I hear and do alot of vehicles that you have to use something to engage the starter. For instance, hold a lock switch and crank the car for it to start. Your best options you should pay for would be a battery back up, an additional siren, and hood and trunk pins. I have two sirens in my car, one that is kinda easy to find, and another which is almost impossible to find if you are in a hurry. Like someone already stated, your alarm is only gonna be as good as the install itself. An alarm install where you drop and under dash panel and the alarm falls in your lap is a bad install or one that is easily seen under the dash, is a bad install. All wires should be conceled in black tape or wire loom to hide what wire is which and to blend into the vehicle. That's about all I can tell you. . . >>Do professional thieves have electronic gadgets that disable alarms? If so >>are there alarms that are not controlled by an electronic remote and have [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > There are about 1 million codes to go through, so I don't see any device > that can copy that, unless I am mistaken? Well, only slightly mistaken. DEI's code hopping technology rolls through about 6 billion different codes. It also transmits on the 900 Mhz band. Theives can capture your code, but they won't be able to predict the next code. The system will also ignore repeated attempts at probing. I wouldn't be suprised if DEI or another manufacturer came out with a challenge-response encrypted code technology (and if you do, JD, you better pay me for it...my idea). Signaturethelizman "I didn't steal the FAQ either" hammerattack@teamrocs.com teamROCS Car Audio Forums http://www.teamrocs.com/caraudio/ teamROCS Car Audio News http://www.teamrocs.com/news/ "It's about the music, stupid" This post is Copyright (C) 2004. Reproduction of its content anywhere other than usenet without the express written permission of the author is forbidden. > Well, only slightly mistaken. DEI's code hopping technology rolls > through about 6 billion different codes. It also transmits on the 900 > Mhz band. Theives can capture your code, but they won't be able to > predict the next code. The system will also ignore repeated attempts at > probing. Well damn, I knew it was a high number, but didn't think that high. But I thought only alarms with high frequency are in the 900mhz band and not all DEI products are HF. Wrong? Like an Avital 2200, has only a wire antenna don't see how that can transmit in the 900mhz range. All alarms are good when used with a good shock sensor. All the snake alarms are made my Directed Electronics as well as Clifford. Bulldog, a company in Ohio, makes a whole line of lifetime guaranteed alarms, remote starts, etc for reasonable cost. > As you might have read, I got ripped off a couple of nights ago: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I am going to learn about alarms and thanks for any advice. |
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