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Older 2 volt maximum Amplifier gains with newer 4 volt preout head units

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BigBob - 24 Mar 2004 02:27 GMT
Can any one tell me if there is any problem using older ampliers that have
adjustment range of only 0.1 volt to 2 volts on the gains with a newer head
unit that has 4 volt preouts?
MZ - 24 Mar 2004 02:40 GMT
There's no problem.

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> Can any one tell me if there is any problem using older ampliers that have
> adjustment range of only 0.1 volt to 2 volts on the gains with a newer head
> unit that has 4 volt preouts?
John Dziurlaj - 25 Mar 2004 03:25 GMT
> Can any one tell me if there is any problem using older ampliers that have
> adjustment range of only 0.1 volt to 2 volts on the gains with a newer head
> unit that has 4 volt preouts?

It won't be a BIG problem, but you won't be able to the enjoy the
extended headroom that 4v provides.

~John Dziurlaj
MZ - 25 Mar 2004 03:27 GMT
> > Can any one tell me if there is any problem using older ampliers that have
> > adjustment range of only 0.1 volt to 2 volts on the gains with a newer head
> > unit that has 4 volt preouts?
>
> It won't be a BIG problem, but you won't be able to the enjoy the
> extended headroom that 4v provides.

A 4v signal doesn't provide extended headroom.  Perhaps you meant something
else?
Tony Hwang - 25 Mar 2004 04:27 GMT
>>>Can any one tell me if there is any problem using older ampliers that
>
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> A 4v signal doesn't provide extended headroom.  Perhaps you meant something
> else?

Hi,
Maybe S/N ratio?
Tony
Eddie Runner - 25 Mar 2004 18:55 GMT
4V doesnt add any headroom!
Adjusting the gains properly at the amp will probably
turn the volts down below 2 volts anyway by the time
it reaches the actual amp circuirty (not circuitry in the amp
but circuitry in the amp that actually amplifies)

http://www.installer.com/tech/gains.html
http://www.installer.com/tech/preamp.html

Eddie

> > Can any one tell me if there is any problem using older ampliers that have
> > adjustment range of only 0.1 volt to 2 volts on the gains with a newer head
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>
> ~John Dziurlaj
BigBob - 25 Mar 2004 16:24 GMT
Thanks Guys
Just wanted to know if I was gonna fry my older Alpine amps or not.
> Can any one tell me if there is any problem using older ampliers that have
> adjustment range of only 0.1 volt to 2 volts on the gains with a newer head
> unit that has 4 volt preouts?
thelizman - 26 Mar 2004 04:28 GMT
> Thanks Guys
> Just wanted to know if I was gonna fry my older Alpine amps or not.

Hell no. I've run stock headunits into preamps before. The "input gain"
adjustment is a very large resistor, and when you have the gains down
they have a far higher input impedence than any speakers.

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BigBob - 26 Mar 2004 04:58 GMT
Thanks.
This is not a stock head unit. Its a late model Alpine CD with 3 pre outs @
4 volt
Yes, I HAVE READ that FAQ many times.
Specific information on the the subject of Amplier gains adjustment seem to
be a subject of much hearsay, and little factual information.
This site also has some good information.
http://www.bcae1.com/
Some othergood sites including your site
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/ISEO-rgbtcspd/learningcenter/car/amplifiers_fa
q.html

http://www.teamrocs.com/caraudio/
http://www.caraudiomag.com/
http://www.caraudioheaven.com/
http://www.carstereo.com/forum/
http://www.installdr.com/TechDocs/999002.pdf
http://www.tpub.com/neets/book7/25e.htm
http://www.realcaraudio.com/
http://www.installer.com/tech/

> > Thanks Guys
> > Just wanted to know if I was gonna fry my older Alpine amps or not.
>
> Hell no. I've run stock headunits into preamps before. The "input gain"
> adjustment is a very large resistor, and when you have the gains down
> they have a far higher input impedence than any speakers.
PunkMartyr - 29 Mar 2004 21:49 GMT
Uhh..

I think that would create a small problem
How do you know its 2 volt max does it state i
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BigBob - 30 Mar 2004 02:29 GMT
Yes the old school 3533 and 3525 Alpine amps I have show 0.1 volt through to
2.0 volts on the labeling for the gains.
> Uhh..
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Daniel Snooks - 30 Mar 2004 18:45 GMT
> Uhh..
>
> I think that would create a small problem
> How do you know its 2 volt max does it state it

OK ... so you think it will create a small problem ... Why? Are you certain
it won't be a medium size problem?
 
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