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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / April 2004

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newbie q: subwoofer help please

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Keeper - 13 Apr 2004 20:47 GMT
I just had a 12" woofer and 300 Watt amp installed in my car. I'm by
no means a car audio enthusiast, I just wanted to have a fuller sound
in my car that I wasn't getting from my stock system. It's a strong
sound, but I can only really hear it well on songs with lots of bass
(like White Stripes' 7 Nation Army) or when I crank the system. It
also feels like there is a slight delay in the bass sound from the
woofer (could be my imagination). It's installed in my trunk in a box,
all provided by the shop that installed it.

Any ideas on how to improve the sound at modest volumes?
Kevin Murray - 13 Apr 2004 22:13 GMT
Some stock stereos will have a "loudness" feature which boosts the bass when the
volume is low. It's only meant for quiet listening and should be turned off when
you crank the volume, or serious distortion might result. The reason it's
necessary is that human's don't perceive a uniform increase in volume across the
audio frequency band as the volume is turned up.

Kevin Murray

> I just had a 12" woofer and 300 Watt amp installed in my car. I'm by
> no means a car audio enthusiast, I just wanted to have a fuller sound
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> Any ideas on how to improve the sound at modest volumes?
Trey Bradshaw - 14 Apr 2004 20:15 GMT
a long shot, but you might want to double check and see that the subwoofer
is in phase with the rest of the system. that could make the volume seem
lower at modest levels. by the time you crank it up though, i would imagine
the bass from the sub would overpower the phase difference and you could
hear/feel it, but that could be why the "delay" also. just a thought.

trey

> I just had a 12" woofer and 300 Watt amp installed in my car. I'm by
> no means a car audio enthusiast, I just wanted to have a fuller sound
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> Any ideas on how to improve the sound at modest volumes?
Keeper - 15 Apr 2004 16:44 GMT
Explain "in phase", and how I can check to see whether it is in phase.
Would that have to do with delaying my front speakers so they match
better with the woofer in the back?

Nathan

> a long shot, but you might want to double check and see that the subwoofer
> is in phase with the rest of the system. that could make the volume seem
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> trey
Trey Bradshaw - 16 Apr 2004 10:01 GMT
No, not delaying, it's just making sure the speaker is in phase with the
rest of the system. The sub doesn't give a sh.t which lead is positive and
negative, only thing is, if you have them switched, it'll be doing opposite
what it's supposed to do. You can hear the difference fairly easily, kinda
like what you're describing. Just make sure the (+) and (-) leads are where
they're supposed to be. If you've bridged your amp, make sure you have them
right on that end as well.

trey

> Explain "in phase", and how I can check to see whether it is in phase.
> Would that have to do with delaying my front speakers so they match
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Keeper - 16 Apr 2004 20:13 GMT
Okay, that makes sense. I'll try it out. Thank you.

> No, not delaying, it's just making sure the speaker is in phase with the
> rest of the system. The sub doesn't give a sh.t which lead is positive and
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> trey
Peter Klein - 22 Apr 2004 21:19 GMT
Putting a sealed enclosure in your trunk facing the car behind you is not
the way to hear accurate, tight, bass at any level other than trunk lid
flexing! To hear the bass at moderate level you need a ported or bandpass
enclosure with a partially external, square (round ports tend to whistle)
port rising from the top of the enclosure, through a carefully cut opening
in the rear deck. The bass will then be delivered into the INTERIOR of the
car not the trunk! P.

> I just had a 12" woofer and 300 Watt amp installed in my car. I'm by
> no means a car audio enthusiast, I just wanted to have a fuller sound
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> Any ideas on how to improve the sound at modest volumes?
 
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