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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / April 2004Eclipse CD Tuner list Pricing
Hello, would anyone know if there is a web location where I might find list prices on Eclipse CD Tuners? I will stop at a local shop and ask, but wanted to do some research first. Thank you >Hello, would anyone know if there is a web location where I might find list >prices on Eclipse CD Tuners? >I will stop at a local shop and ask, but wanted to do some research first. There are a million sites but very few of them will give list price. Try Google. I can give you the name of the shop my Eclipse came from if you're in Los Angeles. I got a KILLER deal. > >Hello, would anyone know if there is a web location where I might find list > >prices on Eclipse CD Tuners? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Google. I can give you the name of the shop my Eclipse came from if you're in > Los Angeles. I got a KILLER deal. Here are the prices on the 04 cd tuners to the best of my knowledge: 3404 $179(no mp3) 3414 $199(mp3) 3424 $249(mp3) 3434 $299(mp3) 5444(mp3) $449 8053 STill a "new model" for 04...$549 8454 $599 (8 volt, mp3, deck power, NOT BALANCED) Awesome, this is exactly what I was looking for. > > >Hello, would anyone know if there is a web location where I might find > list [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > 8454 $599 (8 volt, mp3, deck power, NOT BALANCED) >8454 $599 (8 volt, mp3, deck power, NOT BALANCED) The 8053 amd 8454 can both be attached to Eclipse's outboard balancing box that gets you 16-volts of balanced signal. Either that or you can take the already high 8volt signal and buy a Zapco amp and a Symbilink convertor (which will work with any deck) which will also convert to a 16volt balanced signal accpted by the Reference, Studio and Competition series amps. > >8454 $599 (8 volt, mp3, deck power, NOT BALANCED) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > work with any deck) which will also convert to a 16volt balanced signal accpted > by the Reference, Studio and Competition series amps. The 8454 does not have the balanced outs afaik. >The 8454 does not have the balanced outs afaik. I'm not sure what the 8053 has are actually true balanced outputs either. The Eclipse box was meant to take the signal out from the 8053 and turn it into a 16volt balanced signal accepted by Eclipse's PA series amps, and I believe will also work with the Symbilink inputs on Zapco product. However, I've no idea what makes the 8053's outputs different from the outputs on the CD8443, which I bought last year, and has in less than 1 year's time been discontinued(!). I've found the 8volt outputs on my unit to be more than adequate though, and if you really want balanced output, you can buy a less expensive unit with 2 or 3 volt outputs and go with a Zapco and Symbilink conversion. > >The 8454 does not have the balanced outs afaik. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > really want balanced output, you can buy a less expensive unit with 2 or 3 volt > outputs and go with a Zapco and Symbilink conversion. I have the 8053, but I am not using the balanced line adaptor. The balanced line adaptor, atleast from the info on eclipse's site, was described as a unit that would allow any amp to accept the balanced lines from the deck. It was not ONLY for use with Eclipse amps. I I am very happy with the deck and am in no hurry to use the balanced line feature. The 8053(and 8061/8062 for example), have twice as many RCAs(positive and negative). The 8443 was an 03 model so it has been discontinued(as are most decks from year to year). The 8053 is being kept as a current model for 04 afaik. I agree that you can go with zapco/symbilink. Maybe someday I can afford some Zapco amps. >The 8443 was an 03 model so it has been discontinued(as are most decks from >year to year). The 8053 is being kept as a current model for 04 afaik The 8443 and 8053 were both brand new for 2003, and both are now gone. Check the website. Eclipse doesn't usually dump models after only a year. The top-spec deck before the 8053 (CD8062 I believe) ran for 3 or 4 years. >I agree that you can go with zapco/symbilink. Maybe someday I can afford >some Zapco amps. They have a new iForce line out, but they don't have Symbilink and are built in a "lesser" factory in Asia. I got my reference series for a song, but I'm thinking of moving up to an Eclipse PA series of Zapco Competition series amp. > >The 8443 was an 03 model so it has been discontinued(as are most decks from > >year to year). The 8053 is being kept as a current model for 04 afaik [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > a "lesser" factory in Asia. I got my reference series for a song, but I'm > thinking of moving up to an Eclipse PA series of Zapco Competition series amp. The CD8062 was an 02 model, and only lasted that year(well until the 03 decks were released). The 8062 may have been available for a while since Eclipse probably didn't sell a ton of those decks during 02, but it wasn't considered a "current" model by Eclipse afaik. While the 8053 is not on the website, it is listed on the 04 price sheet as a current model(unlike the 8443) according to the local shop. Yeah, Zapco might be nice. For now, I am content with my JL amps. They do a pretty nice job. > The 8062 may have been available for a while since >Eclipse probably didn't sell a ton of those decks during 02, but it wasn't >considered a "current" model by Eclipse afaik. My Eclipse dealer seems to remember it being a current model for 2001 and 2002. However, when it was replaced by the 8053 in 2003, there were still a lot around, because they had been very expensive and slow selling as current models. >While the 8053 is not on the website, it is listed on the 04 price sheet as >a current model(unlike the 8443) according to the local shop. I'll have to verify, but AFAIK it's no longer in the lineup. This may be another case of leftovers. Eclipse's 2003 model lineup was criticized because their higher-end models needed the Commander unit in order to decode MP3s, adding expense to already fairly expensive decks. This has been resolved with 2004 models, which all decode MP3s except the lowest model. I'm thinking about replacing my CD8443 with the new top-spec CD8454 to get the MP3 decoding and iServe capability. The new AVN2454 looks freaking awesome, and would nicely fill the 2-Din opening in my dash. But it has very little pre-out voltage so I'd probably have to get a Symbilink converter. > > The 8062 may have been available for a while since > >Eclipse probably didn't sell a ton of those decks during 02, but it wasn't [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > fill the 2-Din opening in my dash. But it has very little pre-out voltage so > I'd probably have to get a Symbilink converter. Steve, the 8062 was an 02 model. It replaced the 8061 which was top of the line for 01(the 8062 is virtually identical to the 8061). The avn pieces were originally for the Japanese market. I have seen a few posts from avn owners on carsound who are very pleased with the deck(not sure which avn pieces, there are a few different ones). What you speculate about the 8053 could be correct. It is very possible Eclipse put it on the price list because they had quite a few left from last year. >The avn pieces >were originally for the Japanese market. Yea. Apprently these are the newest versions, released to Japan in late 2003 and for North America this year. The only thing that pisses me off is how they've seperated the model capability. The 2454 is the only one that does navigation, but the model below it has an HDD and can rip your CDs directly into memory as you play them. The base model is really just an am/fm/cd/dvd monitor but it's the only one of the three with DTS decoding built in. > >The 8454 does not have the balanced outs afaik. > > I'm not sure what the 8053 has are actually true balanced outputs either. The > Eclipse box was meant to take the signal out from the 8053 and turn it into a > 16volt balanced signal accepted by Eclipse's PA series amps, What type of connectors are in the signal path from HU to Amp? I am trying to figure out how it is a balanced signal, and I thought there were RCAs involved somewhere in the chain. |
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