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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / June 2004Good System?
I've come up with components that I plan to put together into a sound system for my 99 Eclipse. Please tell me if you think there is a way I can make the system better, or changes I should make, that will not cost me more....this system is on about as big a budget as I can get: Head Unit: Pioneer DEH-P6600 In-Dash CD Player 189.60 http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/sc/main_item.asp?id=964591968&rf=dt&dfdate=05_25_2004 Amp: Sony 1200W Bridgeable 2-Channel MOSFET Amplifier with Variable Low-Pass Crossover http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1069302879573&type=product&ref=03&loc=01 Subs (2): Infinity 12" 1200-Watt Subwoofer http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?b=g&oid=71445&catoid=-8871&m=0&u=c&com.bro advision.session.new=Yes&qp=0083908383268&BV_UseBVCookie=No So if you see any problems with my system please tell me. I really don't know what to do about an amp because I want some good power but they are so expensive. That one looked to be a good deal. That head unit was the best looking one I could find to fit my car...and the subs have really good reviews, relatively good stats, and a good price with the current buy one get one half off deal. Thanks for your opinion. What are you doing for the rest of the speakers, and how are you going to power them? A 1200-Watt amp (even if it is really just 500W X 1 RMS) and a pair of 12" subs seems like overkill if you're using the stock speakers for the rest of the car and planning on powering them with the head unit. Scott Gardner >I've come up with components that I plan to put together into a sound system >for my 99 Eclipse. Please tell me if you think there is a way I can make [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Thanks for your opinion. Head Unit: 'Pioneer DEH-P760MP In-Dash CD/Mp3/Wma Player $203.00 (http://tinyurl.com/2zq8t) ( + $20.00 Insured shipping ) ++ Amp: 'HIFONICS BRUTUS BX1000D CLASS D sunwoofer MONO AMP 1000 WATT @ 1 0h mono $219.00 ' (http://tinyurl.com/3ew4u) ( + $25.00 Insured Shippin ) ++ Subs (2): '2 KICKER COMPVR 12\"'s $139.95' (http://tinyurl.com/ys2um) ( + $37.0 Insured Shipping ) ++ Dual Sub Box: 'Q-Logic QLH-1.2512DE $109.95 (http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/QLCQLH12512DE) ( + Shipping Unknown can also Buy at Best Buy ) [If you do buy a box at BestBuy make sure it's 1.25 cu ft each side an that it's a Q-logic - the rest are crap ) except subZone ; subZer etc.. * OR Lower Power combo ( still will bump)* Amp: 'HIfonics bx500d class D 500 watts 1 ohm mono $149.00 (http://tinyurl.com/2o8qn) ( + $25.00 Insured shipping ) ++ Subs (2): 'Infinity 12\" 1200-Watt ( 300 watts RMS continuous ) Subwoofer $129.0 ' (http://tinyurl.com/29mc6) ( + $ 30.00 Insured Shipping ) *Problems I see* 1. Subs dont handle 1200 watts - only 300 each .. 2 Your amp is not a sub amp and costs more than a much better amp MAD FOR SUBS .. 3 . Your head unit does not play Mp3's - and you have a P so I am pretty sure you have a burner .. Learn how to encode them a 256-320 kbS and you will have a cd full of approx 100 songs at you fingertips .. ( time to buy cable ISP and download KazaaaaLiite !! ) 4 Your amp is crapola !! 5. Infinity subs are good , but so are the Kickers .. in sq prett much equal and handle MUCH more power than any infinity .. Get um !! 6 What are you powering the highs with and do you have front + rear o jusr front ?? 7. Is a question .. If you do go with the 760mp you will have front rear rca out + a sub out .. You will need 6 channel RCA like thi 'Rockford Fosgate Stealth 6-Channel 19.7 feet (http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/ROCCPST66) or the shorter version measure first ) 'Rockford Fosgate Stealth 6-Channel 16.4 feet (http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/ROCCPST56) I would buy the 6-channe if you plan tp upgrade in the future especially !! Saves more instal troubles definately !! * ALSO * IF you do wanna amp the whole system I have TWO very nic recommedations for single amps that will run 4 speakers + subs .. Jus say the magic word and Mister shall appear .. P.S. This was a lot of hard work and time - I am temporarily on dial-u too.. I accept PayPal ! -- Mister_ I have a question about mono sub amps.....are mono sub amps not set up to run only one sub? hence the "mono"? I've never been able to really understand what a mono sub amp does thats different from 2 channel or multi channel amps...could you explain that to me? > Head Unit: > 'Pioneer DEH-P760MP In-Dash CD/Mp3/Wma Player $203.00' [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > P.S. This was a lot of hard work and time - I am temporarily on dial-up > too.. I accept PayPal !! Mono sub amps only have one channel of amplification, whereas a multi-channel amp may have 2, 3, 4 or more channels. Even though a mono amp only has one channel, that doesn't mean that you're limited to one subwoofer, though. You can hook up several subs to that single amp channel in a series, parallel, or series-parallel arrangement, as long as the overall impedance of the speakers is within the allowable range for the amp. Since all of the speakers will be reproducing the same signal, they're still referred to as "mono". It's kind of like when you play an old Beatles song through your home stereo. Even though the sound is coming from multiple speakers, it's still "mono", because all the speakers are playing the same signal. Scott Gardner >I have a question about mono sub amps.....are mono sub amps not set up to >run only one sub? hence the "mono"? I've never been able to really [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >> View this thread: >http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=189545 Mono amps are simply single channel amps . The best are Class D whic only run low frequencies usually and have a more efficient way of usin power since they dont run the whole range of frequencies .. Some chea ones run only 4 ohm ( which could be (2)-8ohm woofers in serie together ) Many others will power a 2 ohm load ( which could be (2)- ohm woofers in series together or (1) DVC Woofer wired for 2 ohm o (3)-8ohm woofers together ) They are not designed for a single woofer neccessarily , just for certain load .. You get more watts for you money if you go with a su amp capable of running 1 ohm loads and running (2) DVC woofers wire for 2ohms each together ... Which is why I made the suggestion originally .. If you go with my original post , then you are basically matching you original budget with much nicer equipment .. What are you going t power you highs with ? the head unit ? If so I recommend getting bas blockers for them until ( if you do ) you upgrade them to som amplification . -- Mister_ > Mono amps are simply single channel amps . The best are Class D which > only run low frequencies usually and have a more efficient way of using > power since they dont run the whole range of frequencies .. Class D amps are more efficient because they have a different topology. The switching freq determines it's usable HF cutoff. There are full range class D amps some of which are MORE efficient because of the higher switching freeq's and tighter tolerance compnents used. IOW freq response is not the determining factor in any amplifier's efficiency. > Some cheap > ones run only 4 ohm ( which could be (2)-8ohm woofers in series > together ) Many others will power a 2 ohm load ( which could be (2)-4 > ohm woofers in series together or (1) DVC Woofer wired for 2 ohm or > (3)-8ohm woofers together ) 3X 8 ohm woofers is NOMINAL 2.66666667 Ohms. Chad Oops - I meant (3) - 4 ohm subs would yiel the 1 ohm load . saaawweeee.. -- Mister_ > Oops - I meant (3) - 4 ohm subs would yiel the 1 ohm load .. > saaawweeee... Nope.... 3 is 1.333333333 four would make a 1 ohm load in paralell. Chad Matt, FYI: "Mister B" has a distorted view of reality.  SignatureMark remove "remove" and "spam" to reply > I've come up with components that I plan to put together into a sound system > for my 99 Eclipse. Please tell me if you think there is a way I can make [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Head Unit: > Pioneer DEH-P6600 In-Dash CD Player 189.60 http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/sc/main_item.asp?id=964591968&rf=dt&dfdate=05_25_2004 > Amp: > > Sony 1200W Bridgeable 2-Channel MOSFET Amplifier with Variable Low-Pass > Crossover http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1069302879573&type=product&ref=03&loc=01 > Subs (2): > > Infinity 12" 1200-Watt Subwoofer http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?b=g&oid=71445&catoid=-8871&m=0&u=c&com.bro advision.session.new=Yes&qp=0083908383268&BV_UseBVCookie=No > So if you see any problems with my system please tell me. I really don't > know what to do about an amp because I want some good power but they are so [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks for your opinion. Care to explain WTF you mean by my view of reality MZ ?? -- Mister_ |
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